While yes Paladins AD is strong, what you’re saying is just untrue my man. Our guilds Protection Warrior tanks Algalon just fine. He gets hit just as hard as I do.
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My argument is that people shouldn’t blame Ret paladins for Prot warriors problems, or for Blizzard’s design choices.
Prot survivability =/= Rets problem.
And btw, I saw plenty of complaints from other classes/specs about their problems before the Ret buff. If they had gotten a buff instead of Warriors, would you fling as much vile at them as us? Why do we get labelled as the villain?
Yeah see you used sims for your arguments, and that’s the problem: its simulations, not real live data. Here’s some I have for you:
Does that look that controversial to you?
By the way, if we do become overtuned in ICC, I’m more than fine with them removing the buff once ICC lands.
Yet I see Fury Warriors asking for buffs until ICC hits. You can’t have it both ways.
Tell me you didn’t play Vanilla/Classic without telling me you didn’t play Vanilla/Classic.
Okay. Show me these logs.
The buff literally has nothing to do with PVP at all. Feel free to look up the Reckoning ability. If you’re talking about Seal of Vengeance ticks, that’s gonna be very minimal at best. Besides, most high rated DPS paladins are Preg spec anyway.
You don’t even know what you’re talking about with half of the stuff you’re saying.
And that’s all you need to know about Bladestar’s argument. It’s spiteful and short sighted.
Call it whatever the hell you want. It’s certainly less short sighted than the paladin buff, I know that much and would go a long way in correcting that mistake.
The algalon we are currently fighting isn’t the original algalon is most of the problems, his damage and health was buffed by 20% on the first ptr and he remains that way.
I’m the GM of a guild that has 5 raids that have killed Algalon 25, its doable with any tank but we used a prot paladin (or 2) in all 5 of our progression kills, it just makes it so much easier, better cds and AD. We use a prot paladin to main tank all of the fights still and have feral/warriors taunt and use their cds then pass it back to the paladin again.
Our first algalon was tanked by 2 prot palas and healed by 3 holy paladins, paladins are the mvp of this fight by an insane margin
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You have better defensives, more defensives, one of them is raid wide, and yes you can literally die without dying once every 2 minutes. You can even soak Big Bang in a pinch if your get out of jail free card hasn’t already procced.
The ret threads far outnumbered any other “buff me” threads. Which makes sense considering paladins are almost 20% of the game’s population.
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You’re clearly just being disingenuous or have never played another tanking class.
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You’ve got some real personal issues with paladins. Warriors have always been so good. So the second you aren’t you tear up. Get over it. It’s a game and you’re crying way too hard about this.
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I’m starting to think hes an alt for Yama or something.
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You posted a link to DPS rankings with the 95th percentile lmao
Look at the average player (which is majority of the player base, and majority of the players commenting in here) The data is much more significant in representation.
But since you posted that same link, please continue with trying to validate your argument and go to clears in the past week on Algalon and all HMs. I look forward to you posting the succesful tank clears for the week by percentage.
And when you do, please make sure you say
“Ok, Paladins are highly over represented and are ridiculously over tuned”
Ahh, the tried and true “if you’re not #1 best meta pick, you are unviable” mindset. In 15 year old content, at that.
Sad. Many such cases.
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Not vitriolic enough to be him.
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Did you not read the title? He is saying there is only one tank, this is entirely untrue. I’m sick of people crying about what other classes have, go play retail if you want every class to have the same kit as each other.
I have all 4 tank classes to 80 and while yes I enjoy Paladin the most, I AM able to tank every fight with every single one of them. Enough crying little girl.
Yeah you got a point. Prob not.
I looked at the 50, 60, 75 and 80% logs. At best, Ret is slightly below mid tier. Guess that DPS buff we got didn’t make us the PVE gods you thought we were. And that was my point.
So you point to HM/Algalon, but previously said to look at the majority of your playerbase in your previous argument. Not very consistent of you.
To that, however, let’s say Paladins do perform better overall:
1.) That’s Prot. Has nothing to do with Ret. Which again, is my whole argument: don’t blame Ret paladins for the tank predicament.
2.) If Warriors do need help with more mitigation, buff em! I dont have a grudge against em. People like you do seem to have a grudge against Paladins though.
As far as representation is concerned: Paladins are a plate class with self healing and can perform 3 roles. Of course that’s going to have larger representation.
See this last little parting shot is all I need to know about you. While you did mention tanks beforehand, I know you just mean Paladins in general. I bet you prefer the balance of previous expansions, where Paladins really had 1 viable spec. Those days are over. Welcome to Wrath.
good ole prot pallies…we got to have one handicap tank class ladies and gents
That’s because you’re playing retail 
Easily said as the most popular class in the game whose tanking spec blows every other tank out of the water.
I’ve never asked for that, I just like to point out the hypocrisy of the ret whining when prot pal so vastly outstrips every other tank spec. Thanks for the moronic one liner though.
Paladins were really good tanks in TBC.
Paladins are now leaders in everything!
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Well I’m not and I don’t know who that is, but thankyou for bumping the thread. Figures Paladins would think someone’s out to get them when they’re 20% of the population and are the only class receiving buffs.
Smh.
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