I used to sub swtor. I just play as a preferred player now.
Well if you canât find more than 36 players you should think about leaving the starting zone.
You forgot superior classes, which are major parts of the gameplay for any mmorpg : )
Which by extension also makes the pvp far superior and more fun than current WoW.
Uh oh. Got me. Im still level 7
theres more than 36 ppl in the D2 lobby and theyâve pretty much been abandoned by all but the truly hardcore and bots
his just upset that you are shattering his perceptions that WoW is not losing people
I may be terrible at PvP, but i hardly mind it getting killed, since thatâs expected.
Last i raided was back in WoD, I hardly Raided or did anything with a guild ever since. iâm just a casual, doing my WQâs, low difficulty dungeons and such.
Nobody for the most part seemed to have a problem with my performance really. While iâm not good, i havenât heard too many complaints about me, and when i do, i attempt to correct my mistakes and get better from it.
Well thatâs good, considering your praising is an EA game. 
/s
But moving on from the labels. 
I enjoy WoW for itâs content, itâs trappings and such like minigames, with itâs starightforward nature to it, and stretching over 16 years worth of content. WoW does have problems, infact BFA, and Legion are the weakest points of WoW in my opinion, (not enough to quit, but just enough to ignore the story) but itâs pretty much the only MMO i can ever stand to play cause theirs really no other MMO like WoW.
SWTOR, while i donât hate it, infact, it came surprisingly close to WoW, and while i did enjoy Dragonage Origins and do like Star Wars Games (pre 2013), this one, just doesnât click with me. And thatâs fine really. I have my preferences and you have yours.
And While i hate EA games, SWTOR is doing pretty good from what i heard, and they have been turning it around with Apex Legends and their own Single-player Star Wars Dark Souls/Uncharted kind of game on Steam: Fallen Order. All they really need to do is make The Sims 5 like the Sims 3 but much better and Skate 4, Release NFS Underground 1,2, Most Wanted (2005) and Carbon, The Sims 1 and 2, and Skate 1 - 3 on Steam without the stupid MTX, and put Anthem, Battlefield 5, EAâs Battlefront 2(017) and all their Sports games to rest, like they did with their studios, cause those games in particular are all poop. 
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Oh im not defending wow. At all. I know its bleeding. Over the last 4 months ive watched my friends list go from dozens of people to 4 or 5 and they are playing classic. Anecdotal, but still.
the ways things are going I doubt Leeroy Jethro Gibbs, MacGyver and the entire Leverage team could help WoW at this point
Everyone is having this experience. Most of my guildmates across 6 servers are gone; my 15 year friends list is dark.
Weâve all gone to Classic or other games.
Itâs some weird internet thing that young people made up so I could feel old. 
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Haha, I didnât want to ask my kids in case they called me⊠âBoomerâ!
(IâM NOT!!!)
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Yeah. I bailed as soon as guild got heroic Jaina down. I was so disenchanted with the game direction and the struggles to maintain a raid roster I just quit cold turkey.
I just returned from an affair with my ps4.
Time to grind essences, i guess. 
While I agree WAY too much stuff gets removed from the game for completely arbitrary reasons, I have learned that I have to live with the fact that Iâll never have EVERYTHING if I play Blizzard games. Doing so would require doing nothing but playing them 24/7, 365. Itâs been hard for me, but now I can enjoy my favorite game again. And WoW is STILL the best. Sometimes the systems suck, sometimes decisions arenât great. The gameplay is still best in class. The world itself, the art, the music (especially the music) the voice acting, all the little things that make it what it isâŠwell, FFIXV and ESO will just never have it.
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Subjectively speaking i hope?
Other MMOâs arenât dead. If anything, i would bet they do aknowledge other MMOâs exist, but they simply donât have any interest in them and just prefer WoW.
Can you explain how the classes are superior? iâm legitimately curious to know.
Ah yes because all the ARR zones in FXIV are popping. Hell, even in Classic Barrens was dead 6 weeks in. Old zones are dead zones. This is nothing new.
Idk man, iâm relatively new, just started about 8-9 months ago and iâm enjoying the game so far so
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Gonna need a citation for that one big boy.
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MoP, plenty of skills, big rotations, a ton of utility and defensive cds used to outplay bad players, class resource systems that you can fail big time if you are bad, depth, something WoW has lost a long time ago.
Oh and almost all utility/cds are not on the gcd, and surprise, thereâs no issue with âone shot macrosâ existing if you know how to design classes well.
Wasnât MoP the era of Arms Warriors killing people in 3 globals because of Sudden Death procs? Charge+Colossal Smash+Execute+Execute. Wow got me there buddy.
Look at how skillfully the Warrior played here. Fully utilizing that kit and outplaying his opponents.
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⊠Huh?
Okay let me get this straight:
- The Classes in SWTOR have a large amount of skills and abilities, including utility and defense CDs, most of them are off GCD, which lends themselves to bigger rotations to keep up with.
- it has Class resource systems that will punish you if you make a mistake.
- No one shot Macros.
Well subjectively, i can see somebody preferring this kind of gameplay. I prefer WoWâs gameplay really, of coarse thatâs just my preference.
I was hoping you get into more detail explaining why these are good and superior to WoW then just a sentence and a half.