Are you upset Paladins don’t have everything and that the point I made still stands regardless of DK and Warlock outliers even if you want to pick on technicalities?
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Nope.
I play a Blood DK DPS.
Hahahahahahaha. LOL.
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What’s funny? lol
I play BLOOOOOD DPS so why would I be personally upset over Ret DPS being bad? Huh? Huh, huh? I personally CHOOSE to play something awful when I could be playing the top DPS spec.
jajaja.
No reason to be antagonistic towards others. It’s not really appropriate.
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People have strange prerogatives.
Raids are 80% dps.
Classes should have a competent dps spec.
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Listen.
If I can bring upwards of 14 of one spec, but I can’t bring even 5 of another, don’t you think a large disparity may exist somewhere in between?
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His point still stands.
Right so which spec do Warriors bring and how many can they bring?
The core misunderstanding here is that you are discussing the need for one role to get a buff and I am discussing this in the context of a whole class and two roles that are potentially available to the class.
Going into Ulduar hardmode prog how many Warriors in any role at all should a top guild bring?
Buff both of us or none of us but if Ret gets a buff and Warriors don’t we will be competing for the same role (and the same loot) while you also have two other roles available to you.
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“Well, actually he was wrong but his point still stands.”
Its not fair to use Warlocks as an example because we are a hero class.
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And apparently a competent Healer and Tank spec 
. Raids are also 7 Tanks/Healers, of which Paladins do totally wonderfully.
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I’ve said this already, Warriors get a buff next tier. Paladins don’t.
They will be able to be stacked come the end of Ulduar.
Groups that have 7 tanks/healers are doing it wrong.
You can 1 tank 2 heal 90% of 25m content right now.
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Do I think there should be a bottom spec when it comes to tanking, healing, and dps? Of course, I think there should be, but they should be the base line when it involves this. Lets say 6k dps base line, but we also have unholy DK pulling 11k. This is literally double the amount for a dps and it shouldn’t be a thing.
I’m not going to go into tanking or healing because I just simply don’t know what’s “better or worse”. But there’s apparently issues with these roles also and it should be addressed and fixed for that matter.
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Their buff is having access to better gear and somehow that doesn’t apply to rets as well?
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It doesn’t! I’m here to learn you something.
Warriors scale the BEST with gear. Any sort of ilvl increase benefits them the most.
Since all the gear is getting an additional buff, the scaling will be even MORE for warriors.
Understand?
Having access to better gear isnt a buff though… its just getting better gear.
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The ceiling isn’t out of reach.