There is no doubt that this is going to go down as the worst season in M+ history

Yes and No, while crafted is very close to Max Myth gear, Myth still caps at 639 and crafted at 636.

So its incorrect to say crafted is = Myth even if its only 3 ilvl lower.

You could get Gilded equivalent from 6s in S4, down from 8 equivalent in S2/3.

Also:

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No as mythic ilvl, notice how I clearly have always said mythic ilvl is 623 - 639.

And this has been a thing since the crest system was introduced in S2 of DF.
It’s not easier now, it’s not a change that made Hero track upgrade into a Myth ilvl tier, that’s always been a thing with this system.

it as as the mythic Ilvl cap was increased by 6 ilvl. Crafted gear falls 3 ilvls below crafted gear meaning crafted gear is 6ilvl stronger than it was in DF

Its like saying my champion gear is the same as hero ilvl hear, well in essence it is but that does not stop me from getting Hero gear.

Same scenario applies in crafted to mythic.

And crests to make it were moved up from 6s in S4, initially to 9s and now to 8s.
Which means it’s harder to get them now.

Wait till next season if you’re going to motivate bad stuff with awards and accolades.

That would be accurate if you couldn’t get them from delves the infinite spamable solo content.

It already requires roughly 40 hours of play, at 15 minutes per T8, just to max out gear on Runed crests.
Gilded from Delves is even more RNG, and if you’re not lucky it’s arguably just not gonna happen unless you run Delves like you’re dying and there’s a second chance in there.
You’re absolutely nuts if you’re using that to say it’s easier, lmao.

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Move myth trak vault to 9 and get rid of this stupid affix when we die.

BAM, problem solved. WTF is Blizz doing…

The gear progression makes zero sense. You want me to clear 10’s to get gear to clear 10’s…faster? How about I clear 9’s which makes 10’s easier every week due to vault. Common sense…

It’s going to happen. They are just taking their sweet time for whatever reason. I’m not bringing any of my alts into this nonsense. I’m keeping them in Delvs. It’s just not worth MY time. I have a feeling most of us are. I hardly see any alts doing 9-10s compared to previous seasons. It’s going to be dead in a couple weeks when we have no reason to run M+ anymore. I’m not clever, this is common sense stuff from someone who has enjoyed the content forever.

Some dungeons I’m using Blast Wave and Dragons Breath on CD just so someone don’t die. Then the mobs just keep recasting the same spell. Something I thought we solved years ago by not allowing this type of mechanic (AKA locking them out of the spell for a couple seconds). I’m starting to think they want us to spend money to go dracthyr for the racials. Nothing else makes sense.

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You are saying easier and time spent are the same thing? Cause they are not. I will not lie and say it isn’t way slower cause it is but is it easier to do a t8 delve that can reward them over a current 8 or a previous seasons 6 or 17? Absolutely it is

There isn’t a pug friendly lvl of key anymore, pug now is just a huge gamble, more than it ever was.
Did an Ara-kara the other day, invited a pally 2k+ IO. Dude managed to die not once but twice to the web rain, rage quit.

You either get a group that knows what to do or you don’t, no matter their IO.
Maybe the experience is different if you play with 2500+

The worst season in M+ history is last season because I put myself through S4 Holy Paladin.

No, I’m saying it’s dumb to say it’s easier now because you can run a thousand delves for a handful of maps to get a pittance of crests compared to literally any other method of acquirement.
Effectively saying, “lol it’s easier now, just spend 400 hours in Delves 4head”.

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I just do +11s for vault instead of 10s because the average player quality is higher. Experience is very different.

I think they should revert it back… M+ isn’t just a hard core players playground. Lots of beer bros like to run M+ and drink or smoke a little while they relaxed and their playground was M0-9

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I think the should just take out the time reduction on death all together, you already get penalized for the run back compounding it is not fun. If you’re group is dying constantly anyways, they aren’t making the timer. The dungeons already scale aggressively, I just don’t see the necessity in time removal. If the time removal was taken away, you could at least talk out a strategy quickly instead of people just straight dropping the group.

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Oh for sure. The moment that they abolished the old system and nerfed tanks and healers the devs seal this seasons fate.

They need to get their thoughts together next year for season 2 because this expansion can’t handle another fiasco season like this one.

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Most of the negativity is based entirely around loot.

I like having less random affixes myself.