Yes, Eonar is of the Pantheon of Order - and all of the Eternal One’s are of the Pantheon of Death. If you were apply this to a familiar relationship - you would assume sisters to be equal. Elune has never shown a physical manifestation - and it has been implied that her powers are beyond that of a physical form.
Elune has dominion over the Emerald Dream, but it was shaped and created by Eonar through Freya - in my opinion, which this is just my prediction - I think Elune was created by accident during the Titan’s ordering of the universe.
Think about the lore of Diablo - when Inarius and Lilith created Sanctuary - a place where angels and demons could co-exist - unbeknownst to both of them - their creation of this world also created Trag’oul, the great celestial serpent, and guardian of Sanctuary. He’s existed in his own little pocket dimension outside the notice of both Angels and Demons for centuries. He is also the patron of Necromancers - where they draw their power from. It basically suggests that Angels = Good / Demons = Evil / Trag’oul = Neutral or Balance
Well, most people like to claim she is. But as been shown Titans and Eternal Ones do wield what can be considered god like magical abilities. Besides we don’t even know what a True God in Warcraft terms even means.
First of all, yes she did. Freya asked Eonar to empower the younger sister of Alexstrazsa and so she did and bound her to the dream and gave her the eternal task of being the aspect of the dream.
2: The legendary you get from Ardenweald/Night Fae is called Memory of Eonar and is learned by purchasing the Echo of Eonar from the heart of the forest in Ardenweald… it’s right there in your face that Eonar is the sister.
Giving someone power and a job at the request of someone else who does not want to do it anymore and then never communicating with them again does not really count as “interacting”.
And the name of a single item is, again, very poor evidence as they name things whatever sounds neat to them all the time. For example Ursoc’s Fury Remembered comes form Torgast, but I doubt you are going to tell me Ursoc is from the Maw.
that power was a piece of her titanic essence though… Ysera became a being of the cosmological force of life because of Eonar, the “pet” dynamic is more there than Elune and Ysera.
I love the Elune theory and I want it to be Elune but from what we have with lore and in-game content thus far, it points more towards Eonar. There is physically no reason for the legendary item for Night Fae to be named after Eonar whatsoever yet it is. Perhaps it can be a typo but I seriously doubt it.
Secondly, you talk like people who behave a certain way can only be found in the forums but actually reread how you’ve interacted with other people.
“Enjoy being wrong when it’s not Eonar” is the type of statement made by someone who isn’t interested in lore-crafting or discussing, it’s a statement by someone who’s mad people aren’t agreeing with you… so… “Gotta love the forums?” Yeah. Nice job playing into the very stereotype you’re insulting which ironically comes from the same breath criticizing people insulting others for “not knowing the facts.”
There are no facts that definitively conclude it’s Eonar or Elune but any and every one can objectively agree it is more likely to be Eonar even if Elune is much more interesting a lore.
Perhaps but I saw the Winter Queen and her being tied to Death and Rebirth as fitting with Winter. This is less so in modern times due to heat/energy but winters were typically associated with death, starvation, famine, and ofc at the end rebirth. This is why the saying “Winter is coming” was so grim in middle-aged fantasy shows like GoT. Also why thematically undead were typically matched with ice/snow.
It also helps that autumn is usually seen by majority of trees losing their leaves and winter follows up that season. Spring is the birth of new life and that is followed up by summer. Some animals like bears also hibernate during winter, while they are active during summer. So the “life” seasons are spring and summer while the “death” seasons are autumn and winter.
Autumn is the start of decay and it finishes with winter.
Spring is the start of birth, and it finishes with summer.
Something I feel like is worth mentioning here are the power levels being presented here.
I see a lot of people saying Eonar or Elune is the WQ’s sister. I dont entirely agree. The WQ is an eternal, the same as Sire Denathrius. We defeat Sire Denathrius in the on-coming raid.
Assuming the Winter Queen is on the same power level as Denathrius, then that would mean her “opposite”/ her sister would be a similar power level. We aren’t capable of defeating a fully grown and mature Titan like Eonar, and definitely not strong enough to defeat Elune, so I’d say they are both out of the question.
I’m not sure what we do to Denathrius to weaken him, but using this logic I think we’d have to look farther down the food chain… like titan keeper level. I’d say its either Freya or someone we arn’t familiar with.
Much as I might joke about the player-character’s relative power level compared to the rest of the world based on raid bosses… We really can’t do that because the internal logic quickly falls apart.
N’zoth was the weakest of the old gods, but the last one defeated and the toughest fight of the three.
We could kill Arthas well before we could even face Cho’Gal, so is Cho’gal tougher than him?
We’ve killed two dragon aspects in raids, but it only took five of us to take out Nozdormu’s twisted future self?
Of course, we went from beating up a titan to beating up a troll, and the troll required just as many of us, backed by an army, to take down. That troll is also stronger than Nozdormu if we use raid boss logic.
Imperitor Mar’gok is stronger than the Sha of Doubt, Nozdormu’s corrupted future self, younger Mannoroth and Anub’Arak.
Not exactly my point. Assuming strength wise, winterqueen=elune, since they are sisters, and winterqueen=Denathrius, then that means Denathrius=Elune. If we defeat Denathrius, that means we can beat Elune.
Thats impossible, so Elune cant be the winterqueens sister. It’s not so much a player powerlevel thing, moreso, we lterally cannot defeat titans or elune. So the eternals aren’t on their power level.
They have already publicly stated they are equal to Titans. We likely will have some McGuffin to weaken him somehow, like we defeated N’zoth with a super doom laser, and defeated argus with Titan help.
Spoilery It would not surprise me if for example the Naaru Z'rali self destructed at point blank range to weaken him, as he is specifically weak to the Light.
Because just because we can beat up the WQ’s brother doesn’t mean we can beat up the Winter Queen. Raid logic does not apply to actual power level, but if you want to use it then we have a way to square that circle already, based on past raids.
We didn’t defeat Argus on our own. We had Titan empowerment when we did it.
We didn’t defeat Deathwing 25v1. We weakened him so that Thrall could shoot a magic laser at him.
We didn’t beat N’zoth on our own. The son of a dragon aspect stabbed N’zoth with a magic dagger so we could shoot a magic necklase laser at him.
And once more, so on and so forth.
Just because we can beat up a thing in a raid and take it’s stuff doesn’t reflect actual “power level”.
I’m just having a hard time wrapping my head around that. The primus was dispatched of through unknown means, the winter queen seems extremely fragile, having her forces whipped back and forth through questing in Ardenwald, and renethal thought he could defeat the Denathrius.
Renethal doesn’t seem all that powerful, yet he charged denathrius, someone who rivals a titan in strength… with only a sword.
Is it the first ones or the externals that equal the Titans? Because I haven’t seen any of the externals do anything that amazing besides making their own fantasy come to life… which is impressive, but the Titans did that every other day with planets.
