I’m starting to suspect that Lady Moonberry might be both the Sister and Elune.
It would match the Winter Queen’s claims of her sister being of the sort of vexing that would poke her multiple times!
Lady Moonberry does use Arcane and has used it in a dramatically Vengeful manner(raising and slamming Spriggan into the ground to death with Arcane Energies) so the Vengeful nature and Arcane use are there.
Winter Queen’s sister is clearly Eonar.
Dragons are creations of the Titans. That’s enough for justifying the Winter Queen calling Ysera her sister’s pet. The interaction between them is the power and the blessing that Eonar gave to Ysera, even if it was indirectly. She is the main shaper of the Emerald Dream, probably with Norgannon’s help.
The Titans barely have any direct interaction with any mortal being throughout all WoW, tbh. We just truly reach contact with them during Antorus.
Logically, that makes a whole lot of sense because the Eternal Ones are basically the Pantheon of the Shadowlands.
Elune is a being beyond life and death, chaos or order… she doesn’t even show a physical form. More like a true god or, as we were presented, one of the First Ones… but, ofc, she was the one who pulled Ysera’s spirit when she died, probably trusting on the Winter Queen.
I think it’s definitely Elune. The Death Pantheon is referred to Eternal Ones and the Life Pantheon is considered the First Ones, because Life must occur before Death, where they spend the rest of eternity.
Now, when it comes to ‘who’ empowered Ysera, let’s take a look at Chronicle Vol 1:
“After the proto-dragons defeated Galakrond, the keepers journeyed to the frozen tundra where the final battle had taken place. Even Ra traveled from the distant south to take part in the great ceremony that was to come. Acting as conduits of their creators’ powers, the gathered keepers bestowed the blessings of the Pantheon upon each proto-dragon.
Highkeeper Ra channeled the powers of his creator, Aman’Thul into the proto-dragon Nozdormu…The nurturing and ever-merciful Freya called upon her creator, Eonar, to empower the proto-dragon Alexstrasza. Known after as the Life-Binder, Alextrasza would devote everything she was to the stewardship of the living world…Freya also beseeched Eonar to bless Alexstrasza’s younger sister, the proto-dragon Ysera, with nature’s influence. Ysera was charged with keeping watch over the flowering wilds of Azeroth from within the Emerald Dream. Bound to this ethereal realm, she descended into an endless trance and became known thereafter as the Dreamer…”
So from this excerpt, we need to determine if ‘beseeched Eonar’ should be taken literally. I am inclined to think does not mean she asked Eonar for permission like some of you seem to be saying. It is more that Freya used the powers, bestowed upon her by Eonar, to bless Ysera.
We have to remember that the Emerald Dream and the Shadowlands were there before the Titans even showed up to Azeroth. This means that the Titans have no direct ties to the realms of Life and Death at all, Eonar, and presumably other Titans, could only access them.
Also, I don’t think ‘Summer Queen’ would be right if there even is someone of that title. It would be “Queen of Spring” or something because life begins blossoming in the Spring!
Nope.
Eonar is Elune.
Elunara is her haven in legion.
Elunaria is where she is hiding in Legion, yes… But Elune is also active on multiple worlds, where she is an important deity. Who knows how many worlds and other celestial bodies might be named after her.
Titans and their host planet share a name: Argus came from the world Argus. Azeroth is of the world Azeroth. By logic then Eonar is born of the planet Eonar.
Lmao it’s not Eonar or Elune. Eonar is a Titan and Elune is just a plot device with no consistency. Both of them are at a power level well beyond the Winter Queen, so they clearly can’t be her equal.
How many times are we going to do these dumb theories?
This reminds me of the insane theories of who burnt Teldrassil when it was obviously going to be Sylvanas. My favorite was always Jaina, that got me rolling good.
Mine was a minion of the old gods. Because it was just plausible to work, but clearly couldn’t be the case (no matter how invested people got into it) because Blizzard’s not going to have the Fourth War, the numerical successor to the First through Third Wars, be started because both sides got fooled.
A runner up was Genn started the fire to frame Sylvannas so he could finally get his vengeance, because really??
I’m honestly pretty baffled about people assuming Eonar has involvement here. Yeah, Eonar’s power made Ysera into an aspect, but that’s pretty much the extent of their connection. It’s a big one, but it’s pretty impersonal.
Whereas Nightsong, the night elf theme, is blaring while the Winter Queen basically performs Elune’s blessing in reverse, complete with star imagery. What about these narrative themes makes the conclusion Eonar?
I think, there is something w’re not considering here.
How the Winter Queen knows Ysera is “of her sister”? Did she knee Ysera beforehand? Or did she sense her sister’s touch on Ysera and just assumed she had relation? Or does she have the power to peer into the soul of someone and know their entire history?
Depending on the answer to that, we can consider the options.
If she got to know Ysera beforehand, it probably means that is certainly not Eonar, since they aren’t closely related, since Eonar has been hiding in Elunaria for almost the entire history of Warcraft.
If she only sensed “her sister’s essence” on Ysera or something like that, it could be Eonar, since we all can agree that the power that turned Ysera into an aspect is from Eonar.
If she somehow knew Ysera’s entire life, it becomes unclear.
Eonar makes sense.
Elune makes sense.
To me, makes sense that the titans and eternal ones share the same origin and they are brothers in a way.
The primus reffers to the eternal ones as brothers and sisters, but the Archon has no relation to the dragonflights whatsoever, and Eonar is a titan, so either.
A- titans and eternal ones are related.
B- Elune is an eternal one.
Which brings a problem here to the table, that is, Elune being an eternal one woulf mean she has her own death realm, and since the night warriors and all spirits related to Elune have been mover to Ardenweald, it means there isn’t an Elune plane of death, which could negate the idea that she is an eternal one, or that Eternal Ones are not necessarily tied to death realms.
You can make the argument that perhaps Elune is a rogue eternal one, who has been meddling in the mortal plane and the other cosmic forces for her own reasons a very long time.
For example, she could of be the elder sister of the Winter Queen, but when she skipped town to go do her own thing she left the Winter Queen to well… take up that title, leading to lingering resentment of having so much responsibility foist upon her.
To everyone supporting Eonar your forgetting one thing The Emerald Dream predates the titans. it was organized by Freya to what we know it as right now but it was already there yes Eonar was given some form of power over it but she isn’t the ruler of it
(Remember guys: Ardenweald is not a night elf zone!)
Easily retconned like most new blizzard lore
It really isn’t.
The Night Fae can gaze into souls and see their dreams, and the Winter Queen can sense something within Vol’jin that is waiting to be reborn, so stands to reason she can both gaze into dreams and sense powers within souls.
i dont think the winter queen’s sister necessarily has to be antithetical or a counterpart. and something else to ponder… if elune is one eye of mu’sha, the earth mother, then who would an’she, her sun counterpart, be?
Mu’sha is Elune to the Tauren.
oops i got that mixed up. anyway, i wonder who elunes counterpart, anshe, would be
Ysera was empowered by the Titans to defend Azeroth in their absence. Sure, the Titans were not actually present on Azeroth when this was done, but they were petitioned by Tyr to empower them - so they channeled their power through their Keepers to do so. Eonar empowered not only Ysera, but Alexstrasza as well - and The Emerald Dream has been explicitly stated to be of Eonar’s making.
We don’t know much about Elune - we don’t even know if she is in fact, the closest thing to an actual ‘Deity’ this universe has.