The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

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I love how you quote

And somehow leave out the very first line of that very paragraph:

Not Quel’thalas. Not Dalaran. Azeroth.

Like, definition of cherry-picking. By you. Again.

The High Elven race was driven to the brink of extinction. This is cited everywhere. There was not some giant pocket of a zillion High elves just chilling outside the kingdom watching it go up in flames or ignoring the Sunwell’s necrotic infusion on their being.

The high elves that remain in game are scarce, and have remained so, and we have only seen their numbers decline expansion to expansion from WotLK.

As for Dalaran, go wowpedia the place. It’s never been large, and it specifically states the people Jaina evacuated were civilians. The most readily powerful mages available at the time fought and died with Antonidas standing against Arthas or were killed as the city fell to rubble around them.

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17306

What you dont like the aptly named Umbric?

I suppose xxxShadowxxx would have been too on the nose.

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17307

I was quietly rooting for Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, myself.

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17308

No one ever denied that the majority of High Elves died. The majority of High Elves lived in Quel’thalas, and the majority of Quel’thalas was wiped out.

What I contest is the 1-to-10 ratio that keeps getting brought up, despite that referring to Quel’thalas survivors. When we have sources stating that the majority of modern day High Elves come from Second War defectors.

Ctrl+F, population: 0 results

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17309

Well at least nightborne had a beautiful story in Legion. Void elves are literally out of nowhere.

Blizzard could easily create void orcs, void trolls, void gnomes, etc. using the same scenario as the void elves.

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17310

The funniest part about it all is that they could have just had the exiled Elves go to the Undercity where the Void/Shadow is basically second nature.

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17311

Blizzard could have made any other person mess with the Void, also.

But they chose High Elf Ranger Alleria Windrunner, who would later become the basis for Void Elves. :man_shrugging:

“First was High, then Blood, and now Void. Get the order right.”
-Velf Females

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17312

While still ironically being a High Elf as per the writers.

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17313

Also of note: the tweet you guys keep referring to is out of context, and I think misunderstanding the question they were tweeting an answer to.

If you actally bother to go look at the tweet conversation, the person asking the question is asking about a Night Elf in the background that looks identical to a Night Elf hunter from an old Warcraft art.

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17314

Exactly, Void Elves have no unique thematic, it’s just Void thematic, everything else it’s Blood Elf culture and ideals placed in the Alliance.

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17315

Regardless of which character is wielding void powers, it could have applied to any race in the game in a similar 5 minute scenario. A squad of blood elf randos were chosen, instead of a squad of insert race here randos.

Slapping “void” in front of a race after a 5 minute scenario is not clever, at all.

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17316

“Void Elves have no unique thematic, except this Void thematic stuff which no other playable race has.”

:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Really? You can knock Void elves for a lot, but not for not being unique.

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17317

You are right.

Not every AR is based on a rock and has magical void powers.

Unless you’re a priest. Which can be every race. Laughs in Shadow

Alliance ARs are just magic versions of existing races created out of nowhere while the Horde ones actually had context within the game universe.

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17318

Thats interesting, considering most people here would have been fine, according to them, with High Elves being the ones to become the randos going Void instead of Blood Elves.

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17319

And Void thematic is a general thematic that most races in the game can grasp, playable or not. Twilight Hammer, talk about a diverse faction.

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17320

Because then we could associate some existing context for a natural progression, especially if it were made as an accident through Alleria.

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17321

Are we pretending the Moosen or Nightborne weren’t just magically created out of nowhere for Legion?

Like, you need an entire expansion of arbitraily running around their -one- zone to solidify it as a valid race for you before it becomes playable?

17322

Highmountain had context. We know Tauren aided the Night Elves during the War of the Ancients and we know it wasn’t the playable Tauren.

Suramar had context. Nightborne are literally Night Elves. The buildings we see were recreated from existing ruins and concept art of ancient Night Elf culture. It was familiar. The circumstance of their story was adapted for Legion.

That the former has antlers and the latter is purple are arbitrary.

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17323

Please don’t pretend the Nightborne and Highmountain cases are the same to Void Elves, it’s a poor comparison.

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17324

Context? They were retconned in there.

Suramar was supposed to be at the bottom of the damn ocean.

Both of these races were literally created out of nowhere. Please don’t pretend it means so much more because they got two questing zones.