The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Source on that? Cause it’s really had to believe that the Human city with best infrastructure and technology wouldn’t incentive immigration.

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Well, it’s one or the other. I’d like to trust the official website that gets updated every now and then.

Those make the majority of the High Elves we see nowadays.

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“Do you really think Arthas used the power of the Sunwell only to resurrect Kel’thuzad?”

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The silver covenant is not the race nor a nation though. It is a militia. Thus meaning that indeed almost all of them would be there fighting.

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It’s not described as a militia though, it’s clearly stated that they are a military faction of High Elves. A militia is exclusively formed by civilians/non-soldiers and this is not the case for the Silver Covenant.

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You have absolutely no way of knowing their total number, nor how much of that number were tasked with carving out a position on that island.

Also, still waiting on the screenshot that corroborates your earlier statement that it has been stated by Blizzard that new High Elf NPC’s have to be given the greenlight by the lore department, Esteemed Contributor.

It sounds as if your logic goes like this:

  • “The Silver Covenant as an organization was represented on the Isle of Thunder, and therefore it is safe to assume that the force present there represents the entirety of the Silver Covenant”.

And if that is the case, then following the exact same rationale, this statement would also be true:

  • “The Sunreaver Onslaught as an organization was represented on the Isle of Thunder, and therefore it is safe to assume that the force present there represents the entirety of the Sunreaver Onslaught”?

Bearing in mind that the Sunreaver Onslaught included the Magisters, Sunreavers, Farstriders, Blood Knights, Spellbreakers, and Reliquary… you’ve basically just rationalized that Blood Elves and High Elves are military equals. Oh, Esteemed Contributor

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They were in the Circle of Elements. Players reported seeing them along the Wildhammer, along with a female High Elf boss that appears there.

Eventually they changed the boss to be a Blood Elf and cut the High Elves in the Circle.

Presumably they did the same with some Tauren on the Horde.

Perhaps in their earliest rendition, they had High Elves and Tauren appear to recreate the Warcraft 3 experience. At some point, they cut both out.

Unfortunate and very disappointing on either side. You still see some of the remnants with the High Elves on the ship I suppose as well as the MAIN mission lady.

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Honestly when you really think about it, I still think they had High Elves set up at some point during the development of BFA but then they decided to go with Void Elves and a lot of what we see in BFA is just a remnant of whatever they failed to change.

Then again they continue to add High Elves so who the hell knows.

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If the Arathi Warfront was set with a Reign of Chaos Warcraft III experience, with no Blood Elves, no Gnomes, no Goblins, and High Elf Sorceress and Priests instead of Human Priests and Mages i would enjoy it way more, at least we got some High Elves on it so i’m okay.

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This thread from 5 years ago is amusing.

But population numbers do not matter in regards to what can or cannot be an allied race.

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I mean it kinda was. I definitely got the feeling.

But had they kept the Priests as High Elves and the Tauren as the elite melee unit then it would have been cooler.

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Considering how much they put High Elves in Legion content and brought back a iconic High Elf character back in the story i really consider they’ve planned High Elves to be among the first 4 Allied Races. Alamara described it better than me.

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A lot points to it.

  1. The reintroduction of multiple High Elf NPCs on Argus (Windrunners).
  2. The fact that there were more High Elf NPCs on the Vindicaar than Horde
  3. The Suramar battalion
  4. Continuation of the Windrunner story through external media

Some might claim that the Alleria storyline was a precursor to Void Elves but I really don’t think so. In fact it appeared to be the Broken Draenei to me at first. They introduced them and had Alleria try to help them master it.

Then we just randomly leave them all to die on Argus. What was that about? There was no conclusion for the Krokuul. It’s a loose straw that never got resolved.

So yeah I still believe we were going to get Broken Draenei (with Void) and High Elves but at one point they flipped a switch and gave us Lightforged (which are basically just golden eyed Blood Elves) and Void Elves (that have almost no context).

I don’t know why, but it will forever be one of my biggest disappointments with the game.

Broken and High Elves are one of the five top requested Alliance races… and we got neither.

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And this isn’t cherry picking? Also I would like a source stating that many of the remaining high elves died in Theramore, thanks.

You mean the hundred of npcs spread across alliance cities and camps that you refuse to acknowledge even though people have linked images and npc names for you?

So? They’re still constantly taking part in the alliance. Just because there are more blood elves does not discredit their existence.

That second part is headcanon, I would also like a source stating that high elves have diminished in numbers since wotlk, thanks.

I really don’t understand what you’re trying to prove, you’d think after people repeating obvious ingame and lore facts that you’d reflect a little but instead you’re still repeating the same old things you’ve been talking about in your op of “why I don’t like the existence of high elves: a primer” thread.
And again, stating the obvious here:
People playing a race they want to play, has zero effect on you.

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It’s often implied here, and elsewhere, that the Void Elves were Blizzard simply not wanting to miss an opportunity to try something new (meaning they wanted to capitalize on Argus being hugely Void-related).

If true, it’s very curious that in wanting to not miss an opportunity to capitalize on Void-riddled Argus they elected to pass on implementing Void-riddled Argussians (i.e. Broken) and instead wrote a completely unrelated narrative into existence with the Void Elves, to the chagrin of basically everyone.

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Void Krokuul would indeed have been better. They also have SOME context and a VERY interesting dichotomy with the Holy-aligned Draenei.

THAT would have been interesting. Not watered down Blood Elves that act like High Elves while being neither.

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Man I dont think even Blizzard knows what to do with Void Elves. They’re basically glorified portal service providers.

Then again that’s the Nightborne too.

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I think Blizzard liked the concept and the personal story of Alleria so much (to some extent i did, but why would a High Elf Ranger go after Void Powers?) they tried to expand it into a “race”. Too bad the execution didn’t went too well.
I believe time was scarce and the developers weren’t able to create a good story involving Alleria and other High Elves with the Void so those plans were abandoned and they went for a really rushed story with Blood Elf exiles, this way High Elves would still be a possibility in the future.
Heck even the story with the Blood Elf exiles could be done better had they brought up Aethas and explored more why those Blood Elves were so eager to join the Alliance.

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I find it curious as well,

The only point I agree with the “I don’t want people playing high elves” group is that void elves were probably a compromise, which high elf fans were very unhappy with.

That being said, it would have made much more sense for alliance to get the krokul as the new race relevant to Legion, and then later in the future Blizzard could have high elves up their sleeve.
Now I’d imagine blizzard are possibly in an awkward situation where releasing high elves after void elves would be well…awkward for them.

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