The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Fyrebusche-kiljaeden · March 31, 2019, 6:08am

yep thats why i always the thought the alliance/silver covenant elves made no sense

humans pushed their prince to outland where kiljaeden corrupted him, and then didnt even bother to help them retake or assist in rebuilding efforts of silvermoon

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:08am

You lost me

Fyrebusche-kiljaeden · March 31, 2019, 6:09am

oh you dont know about garithos?

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:10am

…that’s not the issue. But I’m just gonna let some one else deal with that

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:12am

It’s not that complex to think that there could be a psychological element to the loss of the sunwell and it might not be completelly about the physical connection.

Like I don’t even necessarily agree with Belit’s point, but it is an interesting thought. Addiction has a huge psychological component, and maybe there is a point to the notion that not feeling that close to the sunwell in cultural, ideological ways might have made living with the addiction more easy.

Enariel-sargeras · March 31, 2019, 6:12am

That was one person. Should we exterminate the Forsaken because of what Apothecary Putress did at the Wrathgate?

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:13am

Also was not part of the Alliance of Stormwind.

#ForsakenGarithos

Fyrebusche-kiljaeden · March 31, 2019, 6:13am

did putress kill what would be the alliance equivalent of anduin wrynn, or at least lead him down a path that led to his downfall

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:14am

As someone that enjoys what you bring to the discussion, I suggest you are wary of Fire; they constantly misrepresent points and I’m not sure if it’s simply out of obliviousness.

Khardol-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:14am

Ooh, can we re-open the “Blood Elves on the Horde makes no sense” can of worms again? I always love that one.

It’s always been baffling to me that the remnants of Quel’thalas were willing to team up with Trolls (who they famously don’t get along with) and Undead (who definitely murder-fied 95% of the entire kingdom thanks to Arthas).

And no, “Darkspear trolls are different from the Amani” and “'Forsaken aren’t Scourge” aren’t really valid excuses. If there’s some sort of legitimate claim to the elves recognizing and accepting that level of nuance, then logically speaking the elves of Quel’thalas would understand the humans getting utterly thrashed by the Scourge and being unable to help, they would understand that Garithos was one individual, and therefore they would be more willing to rejoin the Alliance than join with orcs, trolls, and undead.

Like I said, this mistake’s still twelve years running. I always did consider TBC the expansion of “Let’s do stuff that’s cool, not stuff that makes sense”.

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:15am

I mean I thought that was usual in these debates whether pro or anti

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:16am

Goes to show you. When it came to siding with their prince or the city they lived, they chose the later. It’s rather telling were their alliances laid.

Fyrebusche-kiljaeden · March 31, 2019, 6:16am

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:17am

Indeed, but all I’m telling you is that you are not going to get anywhere with them probably.

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:20am

Talendrion, I’ve basically ceded to the point of “arguing is pointless” and resorting to polite banter and pointing out weird things

Fyrebusche-kiljaeden · March 31, 2019, 6:22am

we need more non biased posters like you in here bourbon.

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:22am

But I am biased. People in here know what my post history is.

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · March 31, 2019, 6:23am

Which is commendable really and I appreciate it, but like, this is something else. But honestly? You’ll figure it out sooner or later.

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:33am

Most likely. I’ll just get bored

Cinthoric-dawnbringer · March 31, 2019, 6:38am

Not if the games Lore shows them to be members of said faction.