The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

10/11/2018 09:51 AMPosted by Talendrion
10/11/2018 09:43 AMPosted by Tunkaningan
First nice try with the nightelf pic, put their separate models side by side no bullspit tricks please thanks.


Dude that's no deceit; that's what NB models looked like before they got their unique idle stance. As they were re-made from NE to be playable, early builds still did have the NE stance.

https://i.imgur.com/d9gKSni.jpg


the Deceit is in how its presented. and ty for that picture. You would never mistake the two as the same.
10/11/2018 09:54 AMPosted by Talendrion
10/11/2018 09:50 AMPosted by Tunkaningan
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Oh i understand all right and its not enough. Sorry, not enough to warrant a cross faction swap. That bull picture Alurna likes to float around is the most generous pairing of the two to work in your favor. Show everyone two separate elf bodies and please try to avoid the closest looking skin tone eh? You feed into your own bias.


There's nothing "bull" about that comparison; it's just literally the NB playable model before the NB stance being added. What bias are you claiming? We presented you evidence that beyond idle posture and hairstyles, there's little difference between the NE and NB model.


Did you not see her picture? again you would never mistake the two with your picture which differs from hers.
10/11/2018 09:51 AMPosted by Illiaster
All I want to say before friday is:

If we do ever get promised high elves, I really want a period of patches dedicated to atleast some quests to tell their story and build them back up from just being set pieces.


It would be entirely possible that they would build up some War Campaign quests around it. Then what ever Faction is involved in that war campaign we would more than likely have to reach exalted with before we can play them.
*grabs some popcorn*

Not that my suggestion or deterrence will stop you, but it's at least something to think about.

In my opinion I think you need to give the high elf requests a rest... for now. There's way too much working against it. Lore, gameplay, annoyed players to name a few.

Right now with allied races, it's a chance to diversify and spice up both sides with interesting races. However, there's currently 4 elven races available with one acting as the HE compromise. I think if you were to wait for more allied races to spread the love around and let GD simmer after almost a years worth of HE threads, then revisiting might yield better results. Assuming no new events comes up like Sylvanas massacring them all. At this moment, HE would feel like a wasted allied race slot.
10/11/2018 10:02 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
*grabs some popcorn*

Not that my suggestion or deterrence will stop you, but it's at least something to think about.

In my opinion I think you need to give the high elf requests a rest... for now. There's way too much working against it. Lore, gameplay, annoyed players to name a few.

Right now with allied races, it's a chance to diversify and spice up both sides with interesting races. However, there's currently 4 elven races available with one acting as the HE compromise. I think if you were to wait for more allied races to spread the love around and let GD simmer after almost a years worth of HE threads, then revisiting might yield better results. Assuming no new events comes up like Sylvanas massacring them all. At this moment, HE would feel like a wasted allied race slot.

Junker gnomes would be a wasted Allied race slot.....
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10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Tyrandia
10/11/2018 10:02 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
*grabs some popcorn*

Not that my suggestion or deterrence will stop you, but it's at least something to think about.

In my opinion I think you need to give the high elf requests a rest... for now. There's way too much working against it. Lore, gameplay, annoyed players to name a few.

Right now with allied races, it's a chance to diversify and spice up both sides with interesting races. However, there's currently 4 elven races available with one acting as the HE compromise. I think if you were to wait for more allied races to spread the love around and let GD simmer after almost a years worth of HE threads, then revisiting might yield better results. Assuming no new events comes up like Sylvanas massacring them all. At this moment, HE would feel like a wasted allied race slot.

Junker gnomes would be a wasted Allied race slot.....

They need a gnome allied race.
10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Tyrandia
10/11/2018 10:02 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
*grabs some popcorn*

Not that my suggestion or deterrence will stop you, but it's at least something to think about.

In my opinion I think you need to give the high elf requests a rest... for now. There's way too much working against it. Lore, gameplay, annoyed players to name a few.

Right now with allied races, it's a chance to diversify and spice up both sides with interesting races. However, there's currently 4 elven races available with one acting as the HE compromise. I think if you were to wait for more allied races to spread the love around and let GD simmer after almost a years worth of HE threads, then revisiting might yield better results. Assuming no new events comes up like Sylvanas massacring them all. At this moment, HE would feel like a wasted allied race slot.

Junker gnomes would be a wasted Allied race slot.....


But its highly requested as well. What makes them any different from High elves?
10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Tyrandia
10/11/2018 10:02 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
*grabs some popcorn*

Not that my suggestion or deterrence will stop you, but it's at least something to think about.

In my opinion I think you need to give the high elf requests a rest... for now. There's way too much working against it. Lore, gameplay, annoyed players to name a few.

Right now with allied races, it's a chance to diversify and spice up both sides with interesting races. However, there's currently 4 elven races available with one acting as the HE compromise. I think if you were to wait for more allied races to spread the love around and let GD simmer after almost a years worth of HE threads, then revisiting might yield better results. Assuming no new events comes up like Sylvanas massacring them all. At this moment, HE would feel like a wasted allied race slot.

Junker gnomes would be a wasted Allied race slot.....

If they're anything like mimiron or Jeeves I'd be pretty interested. Never made a gnome before so that should tell you something.
10/11/2018 10:05 AMPosted by Crøwley
10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Tyrandia
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Junker gnomes would be a wasted Allied race slot.....


But its highly requested as well. What makes them any different from High elves?

The amount of people who would play them and where do you see “junker gnomes” presented in game?
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So in the Troll wars the High Elves only allied with the humans once they were completely up a creek and had no other choice, previously they detested them. And then in the second war they basically ignored their obligation to help the humans. The high elves have always been selfish and arrogant. It's why they left Kalimdor in the first place.

But yeah, sure, loyalty and friendship is the legacy of the high elves. lol

I suppose it makes sense that people are so passionate on getting a faction that they basically invented for themselves.
10/11/2018 10:07 AMPosted by Tyrandia
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But its highly requested as well. What makes them any different from High elves?

The amount of people who would play them and where do you see “junker gnomes” presented in game?

Alluded to in questing in TS.
10/11/2018 09:58 AMPosted by Tunkaningan
10/11/2018 09:54 AMPosted by Talendrion
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There's nothing "bull" about that comparison; it's just literally the NB playable model before the NB stance being added. What bias are you claiming? We presented you evidence that beyond idle posture and hairstyles, there's little difference between the NE and NB model.


Did you not see her picture? again you would never mistake the two with your picture which differs from hers.


It's literally a picture of the most resembling coloring and cut next to each other for comparison, there's nothing deceitful about that. The only difference is that in my picture we can see the most diverging skin tones. Don't claim deceit when you are being shown a comparison.
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The amount of people who would play them and where do you see “junker gnomes” presented in game?

Alluded to in questing in TS.

And that rumor leak. If announced allied races outside of Vulpira are true, then that will add more credibility to the other contents. One of which was some kind of neutrality option to party up with the opposite faction or something like that? That would actually kill some of the faction identity argument against HE if true.
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10/11/2018 10:11 AMPosted by Aengeal
So in the Troll wars the High Elves only allied with the humans once they were completely up a creek and had no other choice, previously they detested them. And then in the second war they basically ignored their obligation to help the humans. The high elves have always been selfish and arrogant. It's why they left Kalimdor in the first place.

But yeah, sure, loyalty and friendship is the legacy of the high elves. lol

I suppose it makes sense that people are so passionate on getting a faction that they basically invented for themselves.


Do you not get that some high elves stayed on the alliance

Silver Covenant, Allerian Expedition, Highvale. Still currently alliance.
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Alluded to in questing in TS.

And that rumor leak. If announced allied races outside of Vulpira are true, then that will add more credibility to the other contents. One of which was some kind of neutrality option to party up with the opposite faction or something like that? That would actually kill some of the faction identity argument against HE if true.

They would probably do the goblin and gnome allied races together.

But neutrality? Who are you referring to in this?
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https://www.wowhead.com/news=287534/patch-8-1-ptr-broadcast-text-blood-elf-heritage-armor-questline

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Why? They didn't go Fel in retribution or anything. Most High Elves currently alive don't even want to live in Quel'Thalas. Many have been long-time citizens of Dalaran and prefer to live there.

I'll never understand why people think High Elves would WANT to embrace the Void, other than the handful in the Telogrus Rift. The Void is dangerous, it's corrupting, it's insanity-inducing. It's all around a terrible power to be studying. The Void Elves, arguably, get a pass because their research wasn't focusing on weaponizing the Void, but understanding it in a way as to protect from it.

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Sure, let's try that.

https://i.redd.it/30db25i60ju01.png

So... it's the background, right? I mean, the ears curve a little differently, but otherwise...

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Why not? It's no less terrible fanfiction level of writing than Void Elves, and it'd give Alliance players their long-requested High Elves.


First nice try with the nightelf pic, put their separate models side by side no bullspit tricks please thanks.

"we are no longer high elves" is not meant to be taken the way you are. They are called Blood Elves. His declaration does not change him from the Thalassian hes always been. Please dont try to use trickery and deceit.


You’re memeing at this point, boss.

“A = B no matter what”
*Shown evidence A =\= B ingame*
“A =\= B, but A = B still”

hUh?
10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Illiaster
They need a gnome allied race.


No, please. I love Gnomes but not another half-assed allied race for god sake. Alliance allied races are terrible already, let's not make it worse.

10/11/2018 10:06 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
If they're anything like mimiron or Jeeves I'd be pretty interested. Never made a gnome before so that should tell you something.


A Mechagnome, which is a robot, wearing armor? Doesn't it sound stupid to you?
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10/11/2018 10:19 AMPosted by Talendrion
Do you not get that some high elves stayed on the alliance


Yeah, those are the aberrations. That is the point. All these appeals to wanting to the storied history of the High Elves are baloney because those people don't represent that history.

People want Blizz to write a pretty version of the Tauren for them, thats swell and all. But the High Elves? They're in the Horde and doing just fine.
10/11/2018 10:31 AMPosted by Donnalupo
10/11/2018 10:19 AMPosted by Talendrion
Do you not get that some high elves stayed on the alliance


Yeah, those are the aberrations. That is the point. All these appeals to wanting to the storied history of the High Elves are baloney because those people don't represent that history.

People want Blizz to write a pretty version of the Tauren for them, thats swell and all. But the High Elves? They're in the Horde and doing just fine.


And we want to play as those aberrations. You should get it.

Cause these "aberrations" have a lore aside from the Blood Elves, a loyalty that BE cast aside. That's the point. They have their own story, linked to the alliance, that's what we want to play. Do you understand that?
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10/11/2018 10:30 AMPosted by Lisbick
10/11/2018 10:04 AMPosted by Illiaster
They need a gnome allied race.


No, please. I love Gnomes but not another half-assed allied race for god sake. Alliance allied races are terrible already, let's not make it worse.

10/11/2018 10:06 AMPosted by Sinkasumi
If they're anything like mimiron or Jeeves I'd be pretty interested. Never made a gnome before so that should tell you something.


A Mechagnome, which is a robot, wearing armor? Doesn't it sound stupid to you?

Didnt the dwarfs, vrykul, and giants wear armor in their metal conceptions?

I'm trying to remember back to Ulduar