The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

the reason void elves were given to alliance is so alliance had a high elf race and the reason the nightborne was given to horde is so horde could have a night elf race. it seems to have been blizzards compromise.
10/10/2018 03:17 PMPosted by Jainadain
the reason void elves were given to alliance is so alliance had a high elf race and the reason the nightborne was given to horde is so horde could have a night elf race. it seems to have been blizzards compromise.


So why weren't the night borne colored shifted to be neon green or something nowhere near purple in color?
10/10/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Xathra
10/10/2018 03:09 PMPosted by Jainadain
... you do realise that they actually were planned as one of the vanilla alliance races but were replaced by gnomes.


I am aware of this. Which kind of proves my point about them not belonging on the horde lore wise does it not?


The lore is whatever Blizzard says it is. Blizzard said they belong on the Horde. Your head canon is irrelevant.
10/10/2018 03:17 PMPosted by Jainadain
the reason void elves were given to alliance is so alliance had a high elf race and the reason the nightborne was given to horde is so horde could have a night elf race. it seems to have been blizzards compromise.
So Blizzard's compromise was to give the Horde something that would be unique in the Horde while giving the Alliance some short and less physically fit Night Elves?

That's why it's not seen as a compromise, and why Void Elves are irrelevant to the High Elf discussion.
10/10/2018 03:17 PMPosted by Jainadain
the reason void elves were given to alliance is so alliance had a high elf race and the reason the nightborne was given to horde is so horde could have a night elf race. it seems to have been blizzards compromise.


The pro-helfers refuse to accept this.
10/10/2018 03:19 PMPosted by Shadows
10/10/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Xathra
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I am aware of this. Which kind of proves my point about them not belonging on the horde lore wise does it not?


The lore is whatever Blizzard says it is. Blizzard said they belong on the Horde. Your head canon is irrelevant.


It's not headcanon lol it's called there was lore before wow existed there was a reason that blood elves were originally going to be the final alliance race before they decided on the comic relief one.
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10/10/2018 03:11 PMPosted by Jainadain
10/10/2018 03:09 PMPosted by Curemaster
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Correction.. Blood Elves would have been wiped out. High Elves would have survived in Dalaran, Stormwind, and various lodges. Please do not confuse the two.
go do blood elf heritage quest in PTR info is from quest.


I don't have too. Did you not realize that Keal'thas was not there prior to the fall of his Kindom? He was in Dalaran, as we're other High Elves. There were High Elves in Stormwind, Theramore, and also Lodges that were never involved or aware of the event until Keal'thas came to destroy the Sunwell. Yes 90% of their people in Quel'Thalaswere killed, but that does not include those living outside of their main city. The ones who remain in Quel'Thalas became Blood Elves. Those whom were exiled and never came home to Quel'Thalas after they felt their connection broken to the Sunwell remained High Elves, remained Alliance. These are the High Elves being asked for.. the only people not understanding or caring, are those repeatedly ignoring this fact.
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10/10/2018 03:21 PMPosted by Xathra
10/10/2018 03:19 PMPosted by Shadows
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The lore is whatever Blizzard says it is. Blizzard said they belong on the Horde. Your head canon is irrelevant.


It's not headcanon lol it's called there was lore before wow existed there was a reason that blood elves were originally going to be the final alliance race before they decided on the comic relief one.


Stories in development change all the time. The final version was Blood Elves joining the Horde. This is established lore.
I'll repeat what I said earlier, if anyone was asking for High Elves as a core race, then it would be the big deal you are making it out to be. But they aren't.

Allied Races go by different rules.
You know what I'm looking forward to?
The /silly of High Elves. I'm sure Blizzard will add in a joke similar to the WoW Classic trailer with Chromie mentioning "someone once said, you can't go home again. But they lacked vision.. etc..". Something to do with them saying HEs won't be added, just like they did with WoW Classic.

It'll be fun :)
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10/10/2018 05:27 AMPosted by Lorithyn
10/10/2018 05:18 AMPosted by Christopher
High elf shamans? Yeah lets butcher the little lore we have left.


Blizz created lore that allowed cow paladins, who's to say they couldn't do the same for elf shamans? Its totally believable that some High Elves may abandon the arcane arts in an attempt to rid themselves of their addiction, choosing to commune with nature and learn from the dwarves instead


Tauren paladins were a stupid enough idea. Lets stop the stupid train on high elf shamans before it leaves the gate.
10/10/2018 12:53 PMPosted by Drede


The Silver Covenant is a military organization consisting of mostly rangers.

All the Lodges and Allerian Stronghold are outdoor areas/small towns.

Stormwind doesn't compare to Silvermoon where there are Brooms that Sweep for you, Robot Servants, and Slaves working the Textile mills.

And as shown with Kul Tiran, it doesn't even have to be the Average appearance for it to be the player model. Just to make them look different.


So basically headcanonning things in to make an argument, there's no clear way to say how they live just because they have a large ranger contingent (and that the Farstriders themselves probably aren't of equal size.)

There's literally not enough of a difference to warrant model changing/etc. Especially considering the original contention here being that Lor'themar, A RANGER OF SILVERMOON shows the blood elves can and are rough and tumble just like any in the Silver Covenant.

And then there's the fact that any high elf added....continues to literally be the same as any on the Horde except eye color. You're not getting model changes based on a perceived "amg woodsy elf guiys!

10/10/2018 12:53 PMPosted by Drede

Male Nightborne? Zandalari? Kul Tiran?


All on the same faction except Nightborne? When you got void elves? You know, the swap? Too bad you didn't like it?
10/10/2018 03:25 PMPosted by Shadows
10/10/2018 03:21 PMPosted by Xathra
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It's not headcanon lol it's called there was lore before wow existed there was a reason that blood elves were originally going to be the final alliance race before they decided on the comic relief one.


Stories in development change all the time. The final version was Blood Elves joining the Horde. This is established lore.


Did I disagree? I said they went against lore and anything post that is post justification it was done because there was a significant faction gap due to the horde lacking a pretty race.
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10/10/2018 03:51 PMPosted by Christopher
10/10/2018 05:27 AMPosted by Lorithyn
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Blizz created lore that allowed cow paladins, who's to say they couldn't do the same for elf shamans? Its totally believable that some High Elves may abandon the arcane arts in an attempt to rid themselves of their addiction, choosing to commune with nature and learn from the dwarves instead


Tauren paladins were a stupid enough idea. Lets stop the stupid train on high elf shamans before it leaves the gate.

We have a class that only elves can play, I think shaman should remain the one class that elves can't play at all.
10/10/2018 02:55 PMPosted by Tunkaningan
<span class="truncated">...</span>No. But everyone accepts that they're permanently attached to the wrong faction, so we're here talking about how the next best thing, High Elves — which Blizzard themselves have developed separately and consistently as Alliance allies — might be included in future content patches.


I dont accept they are on the wrong faction. There is no right or wrong about them being on the wrong side. Its how the story played out. It's history in WoW now.

The next best thing shouldn't involve something so similar. The next best thing should be something completely new and just as pretty.


Right then, we'll get Draco'dorei. Dragons that combined their essence with High Elves so that neither race will go extinct. They have the exact same customization options as Blood Elves, but with horns.

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/7/77/Azuregos_high_elf.jpg/300px-Azuregos_high_elf.jpg?version=af70891b2bf1213d0c1431ca40b2a571

There we go. Prettier, and new. We haven't had Dragon Elves before, after all.

Or you know... we could avoid further lore abominations (like Void Elves or Blood Elves going Horde), and just add High Elves to the Alliance with some different classes and different hair styles/colors and skin colors, with tattoos.
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I dont accept they are on the wrong faction. There is no right or wrong about them being on the wrong side. Its how the story played out. It's history in WoW now.

The next best thing shouldn't involve something so similar. The next best thing should be something completely new and just as pretty.


Right then, we'll get Draco'dorei. Dragons that combined their essence with High Elves so that neither race will go extinct. They have the exact same customization options as Blood Elves, but with horns.

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/7/77/Azuregos_high_elf.jpg/300px-Azuregos_high_elf.jpg?version=af70891b2bf1213d0c1431ca40b2a571

There we go. Prettier, and new. We haven't had Dragon Elves before, after all.

Or you know... we could avoid further lore abominations (like Void Elves or Blood Elves going Horde), and just add High Elves to the Alliance with some different classes and different hair styles/colors and skin colors, with tattoos.


Oh MY God can WE be best friends? Like right now irl pz tyvm.
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I dont accept they are on the wrong faction. There is no right or wrong about them being on the wrong side. Its how the story played out. It's history in WoW now.

The next best thing shouldn't involve something so similar. The next best thing should be something completely new and just as pretty.


Right then, we'll get Draco'dorei. Dragons that combined their essence with High Elves so that neither race will go extinct. They have the exact same customization options as Blood Elves, but with horns.

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/7/77/Azuregos_high_elf.jpg/300px-Azuregos_high_elf.jpg?version=af70891b2bf1213d0c1431ca40b2a571

There we go. Prettier, and new. We haven't had Dragon Elves before, after all.

Or you know... we could avoid further lore abominations (like Void Elves or Blood Elves going Horde), and just add High Elves to the Alliance with some different classes and different hair styles/colors and skin colors, with tattoos.


Or...you could just accept the fact that playable High Elves aren't gonna happen and move on to other things.
Please don't get me excited about High Elf/Dragon combos. I already have the Dragonswrath staff and I'll die of happiness if they did that.
10/10/2018 04:22 PMPosted by Shadows
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Right then, we'll get Draco'dorei. Dragons that combined their essence with High Elves so that neither race will go extinct. They have the exact same customization options as Blood Elves, but with horns.

https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/wowpedia/thumb/7/77/Azuregos_high_elf.jpg/300px-Azuregos_high_elf.jpg?version=af70891b2bf1213d0c1431ca40b2a571

There we go. Prettier, and new. We haven't had Dragon Elves before, after all.

Or you know... we could avoid further lore abominations (like Void Elves or Blood Elves going Horde), and just add High Elves to the Alliance with some different classes and different hair styles/colors and skin colors, with tattoos.


Or...you could just accept the fact that playable High Elves aren't gonna happen and move on to other things.


Orrrrrrrrr... you could accept that we will never stop asking for High Elves and maybe you could move onto other things. It's super ironic that you say that. Doesn't make any sense that you stick around provoking people about something you evidently don't care about.
Though as I've said before, the more you comment, the more exposure this thread will get anyways, so it's a win-win for us.
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10/10/2018 04:23 PMPosted by Aidre
Please don't get me excited about High Elf/Dragon combos. I already have the Dragonswrath staff and I'll die of happiness if they did that.


If they bring in a dragon-like race it better be dragonmen or something similar to Dragonborn from D&D....with tails!
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