The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

So what, you just want Alliance playable blood elves? Blizzard have already said they don’t want to do another Pandaren style neutral race.

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No, we don’t want blood elves. You may not have noticed, but there’s a 10,000 post thread with ideas of how to do it. Go read it.

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There’s no desire for Blood Elves to become neutral, particularly in the Pandaren style. The request is rooted more in the desire to play the High Elves in the Alliance which have remained loyal to it. The Silver Covenant, as an example. I don’t think you’d call them, ‘Blood Elves,’ would you?

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They’re physically identical to blood elves, they follow the same religion as blood elves, they share the same religion as blood elves, they speak the same language as blood elves, they have the same culture as blood elves.

The only difference is eye colour and political affiliation.

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Not quite. High Elves’ spirituality is through the Light, whereas for the Blood Elves, they draw the power of the Light through the Sunwell, rather than really embracing the teachings, virtues, and philosophies the High Elves do. Without the Sunwell or a Naaru to feed them, the Blood Knights would be subpar Warriors, while the High Elven Paladins would be fine.

Culture is also different. The original divergent culture rested on how each group cope with magical addiction and withdrawal, with Blood Elves choosing the more pragmatic approach, and High Elves choosing the more ethical approach. Today that difference has evolved, which is shown by how the two groups have a very different relationship with the Sunwell. The Blood Elves are far more dependent upon the Sunwell than the High Elves are, which is why Blood Elves have Gold Eyes, and High Elves don’t.

Further physical distinction is quite possible by incorporating elements of Half-Elves into High Elven customization. We could see skin color options that are available to humans, but not Blood Elves, as an example. Considering High Elves live among Humans, Dwarves, and Gnomes, we might see further differences such as hairstyles and facial hair/jewelry.

There’s even the potential for High Elves to grow further unique by embracing Druidism and Shamanism from their allies within the Alliance, the Night Elves and Wildhammer Dwarves, both of which groups they have worked alongside fairly well.

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Let’s do this point by point.

At least some blood elves do still follow the light, most notably Lady Liadrin.

Lady Liadrin says: But the Light showed me that I was not lost. It helped me to find the strength to survive in spite of all that had happened and all the evil I had wrought.

Blood elves being more dependent on the Sunwell is your headcanon based on a character customisation option and there isn’t any lore stating this.

You’re talking about half-elves here, not an actual difference between blood elves and high elves.

High elves are no more based in the natural world than their blood elven equivalents in groups like the Farstriders.

All of these are things you wish were points of difference, not things that are different.

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There is a difference between, ‘the Light,’ a cosmic power, and, ‘The Light,’ the teachings of the Church of the Holy Light which encompasses the Three Virtues and which Alliance Paladins (outside of the Draenei), have been following for quite some time. It’s well known the Blood Elves lost their faith in the Light. It was the major selling point behind Blood Knights.

Half-Elves seem to be more accepted by High Elves than Blood Elves, so there is a cultural difference here, not only in terms of accepting their offspring, but also in the fact High Elves will intermingle where Blood Elves won’t. Unless you want to show me some Half-Elf Half-Orcs or something?

The idea of High Elves being more based in the natural world is an idea to make them further different from Blood Elves, not a point that they are already more different. They have a potential through their allies within the Alliance to do this, something which the Blood Elves lack through the Horde.

If you can look past skin/hair color, yeah, the High Elves and Blood Elves are a different people.

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There is a “High Elves don’t work” thread for this. No reason to spam this thread.

Also, according to what you have said we have to delete Lightforged and Mag’har and High Mountain Tauren.

Void Elves are a stretch too.

Additionally please research Quel’dorei before making accusations like, “You want Blood Elves on both sides.”

And they gave the Horde Night Elves so who cares anymore anyways?

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This is a high elf discussion thread, I’m discussing high elves. I’m sorry we don’t agree but that doesn’t mean I have no right to post my opinion.

And no, clearly there’s a massive difference between a tweaked version of a race on the same faction and a tweaked version of a race on the other faction.

They gave the Alliance void elves, why’re Nightborne so different?

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High Elves are already part of the Alliance, they’re just not playable yet.

It’s the Horde that got a tweaked version of an Alliance (NPC, yes) race all the way back in TBC.

Some work was actually put into making the Nightborne, for one.

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The blood elves were re-named the blood elves and left the Alliance before WoW was even a twinkle in Metzen’s eye. The Horde didn’t get a tweaked version of an Alliance race, the Horde got a former Alliance race.

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They have different eye colors, their eyes didn’t glow, their skin tones aren’t changed by fel (no reddish skin undertone), they have different hair colors and they have different facial options, and those are only the in-game differences.
If they are meant to be playable obviously they will have more unique customization options such as different hairs styles and colors, different skin tones, different face features (beards for males and silver earings with blue gems for females), arcane markings and ranger tattoos like the ones that Alleria use.

Saying the same thing twice, take care with that. Anyway, the Blood Elves don’t have religion, their connection to the Light isn’t through faith but through ther connection to the Sunwell, while the High Elves connect to the Light in the same way the Humans and Dwarves do. If you are talking about beliefs and ways, the divide that happen between the Blood Elves and the High Elves after the third war is very important: The Blood Elves tried to sate their addiction and feed themselves with power with anything, leaving their morals behind in favor of power or anything that could help them bring them back to their former glory. The High Elves instead of following the same path, decides to control their addiction, putting their morals over power and their loyalty to the Alliance over their kingdom.

True, and also Common and other Alliance languages

This is blatantly false, i don’t even need to explain that, the game is up to you to play on the Alliance side. The High Elves don’t live in Quel’thalas to have the same culture than the Blood Elves.

This pretty much sums up the Void Elves, just swittch eye color with skin color and there you go.

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Not all of them

And players have been asking to play with those that remained loyal since day one. The modern Quel’dorei never left the Alliance.

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High elves never, Horde strong

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I’ll be honest, the 9990ish post count was setting my OCD off and nothing gets you people posting like saying high elves are stupid.

Glad I can finally move on with my life.

10.000 Posts mark achieved! Grats to all!

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Then i retire what i said earlier, you were just being a troll.

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I’m actually not a troll, I’m a blood elf.

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Big oof on the 10 thousandth post, lads.

Not really a big deal? Just one more post in the thread.

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