The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Yes, but what I’m saying is that if the humans are predominantly utilizing medieval technology… and are still the most powerful member-state of the Alliance, then there are clearly other factors that are keeping the others from reigning supreme.

The only feasible one is that they’re limited by population.

I still don’t understand why this thread is being used to argue about whether or not they should be playable.

That isn’t the purpose of this thread and it has been constantly derailed. If you people want to discuss why they should or shouldn’t be playable go make your own thread which purpose is to do that.

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Because Shadows is here mostly…

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The Legion invaded all over Azeroth. We only saw a limited part of this invasion in game. The Blood and Night elves could afford higher losses. The High Elves can’t. Every person they lose can’t be replaced, and pushes them closer to the brink.

‘Time is of the essence!’
Ah the old multiplayer bgs in Warcraft2!
Sips tea as his eyes glaze over

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I didn’t realize High Elves were sterile. Today, I learned.

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and every person every other race loses can be replaced? I think not.

Almost every other race has much larger numbers, meaning they can afford higher loses.

Warcraft 3 again soon though! I’m excited.

But yeah, if I had a gold coin for every time StarCraft/Warcraft lands 3 dudes on a raft on a deserted Island with an innumerable ancient civilization and by the end I’m over running them with endless hordes I’d be able to buy a mount or something. Figuratively, obviously.

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This is only true if you’re looking at the situation as a statistic.

If the HE’s lose 20 people, it just sucks – if the Blood Elves lose 20 people, they’re one step closer to losing control over their entire nation.

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and this is still assuming that the silver covenant took the same high losses. Like I said there is no way they committed a majority of the silver covenant to the suramar assault. There wasn’t enough present for that and it would be unnecessary for the goals anyway.

No, the Tauren and the Darkspear are both stated as being nearly extinct.

They should be extinct now considering the amount of content they’re in.

Except it’s WoW/Blizzard so population numbers don’t mean anything.

Take Void Elves for instance, they’re looking for ways to reproduce, they haven’t found ways to reproduce…

but the way they jump out of rifts it’s obvious they’ve got a Gold Mine, a barracks and a farm somewhere on their space rock.

I can agree. On some level I don’t think the Developers, back in Burning Crusade, meant for High Elves to be playable. However the continued presence of High Elves in the game, especially in Alliance content, painted the development of the race towards being an option at some point.

Something to consider is that Dalaran has historically been the second largest population center of Thalassian Elves in the world. We don’t know how many lived there, but Dalaran wasn’t even the smallest Human Kingdom; that is Alterac’s claim to fame.

So seeing the Silver Covenant coming from a militant faction of Dalaran High Elves (not even all High Elves in Dalaran) does lend credence to their numbers being so high. They come from the highest concentration of them.

Even then, as the Cataclysm revamp showed us, there are still lodges of High Elves in the world, and High Elves living in cities other than Dalaran, who didn’t join the Silver Covenant.

Realistically the population argument falls flat because of this. If the High Elves united as a race, as would make sense in a recruitment scenario, then population is not an issue for status as a playable race.

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It takes about 2 decades for a High Elf to reach maturity. The exile hasn’t even been that long yet, and they were a minority back then.

We also have to keep in mind pretty much the entire dev team from when wow started to what it is now has been replaced as people left the company or moved to other positions within blizzard.

So of course how they believe the story should go is different.

Well, if it really is located in the Twisting Nether, then time moves at a different rate compared to Azeroth. This could help explain their numbers.

debatable. Sure it is a minority compared to blood elves but it by no means is a small amount. Not compared to other races who we know are small in number. For instance the draenei when they were added were said to be about 300 that come aboard the exodar.

It is unknown where it is located. The twisting nether and the great dark are 2 different things and could be somewhere else entirely from those 2.

That reminds me that a lot of children in Quel’thalas was killed when the elves tried to send them via boat to the Hinterlands.

You know which children weren’t decimated? Of the high elves living far from Quel’thalas.

New high elves don’t need to have been born after the burning of Quel’thalas. Most children during that time that were living away from home would be adults now.

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Specifically in Rise of the Horde when the Orcs thought they wiped out all the Draenei who where hiding in the Zangara Marsh.

This was before some started mutating into Broken.

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