The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:37pm

I mean.

I guess we could just make all the High Elves chunky. :v

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:38pm

We could but better idea is to probably use the night elf model as a base and shrink it down until it is essentially a buff high elf. Slap the high elf head on and switch up the animations and there we have it.

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:40pm

The cornerstone of your argument has always been that you strictly adhere and believe in the Lore.

But now you are saying that the two cultures aren’t different enough.

This means you want their Lore affected in some way for them to be capable of being playable.

As a person who loves the Warcraft Lore, that’s pretty upsetting.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:40pm

So head canon? Got it.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:41pm

I don’t see how that is head canon when that is literally what we can observe in game. I didn’t see any other army of the light ships.

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:42pm

If they change Quel’Dorei to make them playable after giving Night borne to the Horde as is, I’d organize a boycott.

Sylvan-lightnings-blade · February 7, 2019, 9:42pm

I think somewhere in the middle of that. A little more substantial, since the Quel’dorei remaining would have to be more rugged than the Silvermoon lounging around studying magic.

Also probably slightly different ear shapes as the did with the Nightborne. Eye colors and hair colors can also differentiate.

My request: Emerald green hair and purple eyes. I don’t care how it has to happen; make it so!

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:43pm

It depends on how much you change them. What the majority of the community has agreed upon as being okay you would probably still not like. That is fine but don’t expect much support.

Fyorsing-sargeras · February 7, 2019, 9:43pm

What, exactly, would require a retcon? I essentially just described the exact situation that High Elves are in, right now, on the most recent patch of BfA.

They all fit onto one ship. The same reason there aren’t very many Draenei in general, having also arrived on a single (albeit, much larger) ship.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:46pm

Dalaran was attacked by the Legion twice. The Silver Covenant conducted urban warfare against the Legion and their loyalists in Suramar City. It would be disingenuous to claim they didn’t suffer heavy losses against such a formidable foe.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:47pm

I mean there is also the precedence to include mixed heritage options. It is completely reasonable to assume that there is some mixed human heritage. They are not half elves for the most part. I know some would be half elf but most would be 3/4 or 7/8. The fact is they identify with the high elven culture and mix in with it. No that does not make the race “half elves” because that is simply what the reality of alliance high elves are now. There are pure ones but there are also mixed ones. They all view themselves as high elves or as part of that society.

So where this fits in is shorter ear options, facial features, and hair.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:48pm

Where is it stated that only 50-100 could fit on the ship?

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:49pm

It would be disingenuous to assume that was even a majority of the silver covenant that were present for the battle. Like I have said from what we have seen it has to consist of multiple battalions. The assault force on suramar was not a large one as we were not there to conquer the city. It was a precision strike with the majority of the forces there as a distraction.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:51pm

I didn’t say only that many could fit on the ship. I am saying that is probably what remains after it got shot down, fought a war entrenched on the heart of enemy territory for weeks, and then made a frontal assault of the main enemy base.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:51pm

I’m still not following.

I’m saying I don’t want their lore affected?

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:52pm

Every single WoW expansion has an extinction level event the Horde and Alliance go fight. So if you are going to assume that the Silver Covenant took heavy losses from those events, that would mean, logically, they should have the highest population in the world because every other race should be dead.

Glenn Graymane was like, “Anduinn, we might have to recruit farmers soon.”

Farmers? Now? Not after the Third War, the next two world ending demon invasions, the undead invasion from wrath, the second orc invasion?

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:52pm

Source that the majority of Silver Covenant forces were NOT at Suramar?

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:54pm

That they’ve essentially been described in numerous ways as a dwindling race. The emergence of the Silver Covenant doesn’t negate this, but it does set a precedent that their dwindling numbers can unify and create a new culture, possibly.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:54pm

So a guess at best. This is why it isn’t a good idea to throw around specific numbers like that.

Fyorsing-sargeras · February 7, 2019, 9:55pm

It was me who posited 50-100, and that number is presuming that the Lightforged Draenei are as elite a group as they self-proclaim – the largest medieval vessel ever built is presumed to have been capable of holding 200-250 people while being utilized as a military vehicle (and 800 if all military equipment were removed to make space).

I’ll concede all the way to 250 individual Lightforged Draenei, and presume they do all of their own grunt work (cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc.). It doesn’t really change anything about my original assertion.