The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Alamara-goldrinn · February 7, 2019, 9:23pm

I never said there should be. I just use it to counter the argument that high elves are too few to be playable.

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:24pm

Tauren and Darkspear were both nearly extinct.

Population numbers in WoW are pointless.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:24pm

Why do you think the Alliance recruited the Lightforged? The Exodar Draenei are too weak on their own to contribute to the war effort.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:26pm

I mean tbh I don’t think either faction has any issue with any group wanting to join their cause.

Fyorsing-sargeras · February 7, 2019, 9:26pm

The Lightforged Draenei, who likely number somewhere between 50-100 individuals? If they’re so able to turn the tide, then the hundreds and hundreds of High Elves should make plenty of sense to you.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:27pm

I don’t know. That would have to be a new piece of lore because there’s quite literally nothing that supports it.

My main issue is retconning. I don’t approve of it, even if Blizzard does do it.

When it was stated years ago that High Elves aren’t playable because of population, that was built on by expressing their scarcity and lack of unification. The Silver Covenant was later added, and it didn’t require any retconning or logical backflips to suggest that what few that remained wanted to band together.

I still think the issue of faction identity is a problem, sadly.

Shadows-emerald-dream · February 7, 2019, 9:27pm

What makes you think there are only 50-100 Lightforged?

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:28pm

I just want to throw out there that if someone said playable High Elves would have thrown off faction balance during Burning Crusade I might have agreed with them.

It’s an absurd view to have now, but back then it would have made some sense. I would have still wanted playable Quel’Dorei then, but I’d have been sympathetic to the counter argument. Now that Night borne and Void Elves Are a thing it’s a pointless argument. People will choose the faction they like. And more often than not try hards are going to choose Horde anyways.l for the racials.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:29pm

I really don’t see how it is. What defines a faction isn’t what the races on it physically look like. What defines it is the ideals and motivations they have.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:30pm

They were, but it Blizzard added them on the grounds of expanding them - quite obviously. And Blizzard expressed that “population” in whatever capacity was an issue for High Elves.

I don’t think the Tauren and Troll argument is all that strong.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:30pm

The fact they came on one ship that was shot down and proceeded to fight a month or so long war in the heart of enemy territory before ending it by making a frontal assault on the enemy’s primary base.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:31pm

Really? The Horde is currently broken down the middle because of dissenting opinion on ideals.

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:32pm

aye. That is their current story and is the cause of their strife. It won’t stay like that forever.

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:32pm

Your argument about their faction identity while your strict adherence to the Lore is actually pretty upsetting.

So the Quel’dorei have to change? They’ve gotta retcon some lore or force some stupid lre in to make them playable?

This really undermines your other, logical complaints.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:34pm

I think from a more practical standpoint anyway, they want each faction to have unique appearances for gameplay purposes.

Night Elves and Nightborne look much different than what High Elves and Blood Elves should look like. (i.e. the same)

Fliktarg-thrall · February 7, 2019, 9:35pm

in lore sure they look the same but in game the models are pre determined and can only represent 1 possible look of that race.

it is the same thing with kul tirans. They are humans but blizzard chose a different model to represent them from normal humans. That can be done for high elves. If you say it isn’t possible then are are literally saying that everyone of the same race looks exactly the same with no distinction in body size whatsoever.

Sylvan-lightnings-blade · February 7, 2019, 9:35pm

I think that’s a flimsy excuse from Blizzard. Void Elves and Nightborne surely did this, if the Pandaren did not already. I’ve said (probably earlier in this thread) that the factions are more established by political and cultural ideology than race. The Alliance has undead - DKs - and that’s fine. The groups like the Earthen ring and the Moonglade druids have races from both sides. That doesn’t have to be the deciding factor either.

Archmage-azralon · February 7, 2019, 9:36pm

The home of Silver Covenant is Dalaran, and last I checked Dalaran wasn’t destroyed. The Battle For Azeroth comic show that the Silver Covenant Leader is raising her kids there:

And surprise surprise, let’s guess what kind of citizen Dalaran has:

Just because Dalaran is not involved in BFA, doesn’t mean this city and their people don’t exist.

Disglain-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:36pm

Don’t get upset, Nyshant. It’s only a discussion. <3

I’m not sure what you’re saying actually.

Nyshant-wyrmrest-accord · February 7, 2019, 9:36pm

This is being really unfair to the playerbase. Especially after the inclusion of Night borne to the Horde.