Indeed. Would it not be reasonable that some of those individuals did fall under a leadership in Dalaran? Would that number not still be a small number?
I don’t entirely agree with that. It’s an interpretation - though it’s one that I can understand the reasoning of.
I would interpret the Silver Covenant as being a gathering of some or most of what few High Elves do remain.
Basically, the Silver Covenant coming into existence doesn’t change the rest of the lore surrounding High Elves. That being that they’re a rarity.
Though… This has actually sparked a consideration in my mind. I need to go read something… I’ll report back.
Population numbers in WoW are meaningless. The Darkspear and Tauren were nearly extinct too.
Everybody that has played any rts blizzard game knows the Quel’dorei are one farm, garrison and gold mine away from being the most numerous race on Azeroth.
That isn’t a position you’ll probably want to assert, or attempt to defend, considering that there are more High Elf NPC’s than almost all of the Allied Races and even more than some of the original races.
I don’t understand the first question, if I’m being honest.
As for their numbers, sure, they’d be small relative to other playable races. They’d absolutely dwarf the number of Void Elves, and Lightforged Draenei, however.
Isn’t what you said and what I said basically the same statement?
How many High Elf NPCs have been added for BfA compared to Void Elf NPCs? High Elf NPCs in WOTLK, MOP, and Legion are irrelevant because that was the past.
You were attempting to utilize the number of NPC’s, in-game, to prove a point about population. To then turn around and tell others, doing the same thing, that their NPC’s “don’t count” is the epitome of silliness.
Alright, folks. Something may have tentatively changed my mind concerning High Elves’ playability.
Fyorsing pointed out that the Silver Covenant, while small, came years after the “scattering” of the High Elves, as it were.
Everything we have says that they “are” a rarity in that particular statement’s respective time bubble. I’ve just had a moment of realization that things that are scattered are generally rarely seen if they’re a small number to begin with. You can easily see ten marbles in your hand, but if you drop them and they roll all about, then you’ll only see one here or there.
That would also explain some of the other definitive statements about High Elves being few and far between, since most of the ones I’m familiar with are actually delivered by characters. And Blizzard does enjoy an unreliable narrator from to time.
There are still some blips that I’m uncomfortable with, but I can get behind this.
So you are the kind of person that uses the past to show why High Elves can’t be playable, but ignores something in their favor from the past to suit your line of thought?
I’m talking about current content. The Silver Covenant NPCs we saw in Northrend, Pandaria, and the Broken Isles are no longer there lore wise. Many were killed in those engagements, and we don’t know how many are still alive.
Logic dictates there are more then 13 Void Elves, both from what we have seen in BfA content, and the fact they wouldn’t be playable if their numbers were so few.
The Draenei did suffer heavy losses against the Legion, both on Argus and the attack on the Exodar. There probably aren’t a lot of Draenei left, which is why they haven’t had much of a presence for BfA.
And to add to this; numbers naturally grow over time. How many years are we talking about since the scattering? Since a substantial number came together to form the Silver Covenant after the scattering, there’s no reason to think that more remains can all unite under this banner, led by Vereesa. As I’ve said before, the Lore can support it in a logical way, it just depends on Blizzard deciding to do it.
As well, this wouldn’t mean that High Elves would’ve suddenly gained a larger population. They can continue to have a low population (though I suspect the 1:9 ratio mentioned in that CM statement no longer applies, mostly owing to the BE’s development over the years), while still presenting as a unified force – the Lightforged and Void Elves don’t seem to have a problem doing as much.
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I’m talking about current content. The Silver Covenant NPCs we saw in Northrend, Pandaria, and the Broken Isles are no longer there lore wise. Many were killed in those engagements, and we don’t know how many are still alive.[/quote]
We didn’t get to go to a revamped Thunderbluff in BfA, does that mean it doesn’t exist?
I understand the point you’re attempting to make, but it’s both terribly stated and horrendously ignorant of how development of an open-world MMO actually works.
I’m fine with either understanding of the Void Elves circumstances, because either way you look at them they lend support to the notion of implementing playable High Elves.
If there were only 10-20 Void Elves, then clearly population isn’t an issue because there are hundreds of High Elves.
If there were hundreds/thousands of Void Elves, then as they were all Blood Elves, the ratio of HE’s to BE’s is becoming intriguingly close (compared to the proposed 1-to-9 split). The point being that if the ratio gets closer to 1-to-6 or 1-to-5, the arguments about population sort of begin to affect BE’s as well.
The opposite is true. When confronted with the idea that numbers are the reason high elves shouldn’t he playable the Void Elf numbers make it obvious that numbers have nothing to do with being playable.
That being said, the Silver Covenant, the Quel’danal and Allerian Hold Quel’Dorei means there are probably more Quel’Dorei than any Allied Race other than Kul’Tirans, Zandalari and Dark Irons.
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