So you’re saying that the elves that left Silvermoon and went to, say, Dalaran were - as a rule - kinder and less snooty than the elves who stayed?
Well, that’s generally why they stayed away from the politics of Silvermoon, instead choosing to remain with their human allies.
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Right, so they left Silvermoon because they didn’t like elven politics?
I’m not trying to be demeaning, this is all just entirely new lore to me. Where are you getting it from?
I meant to post this before as well, but I’m very interested to see what people make of this excerpt from the Warcraft Encyclopedia.
In consequence, there are so few high elves left on Azeroth today that they cannot be considered a race in anything other than the biological sense. High elves do not gather in any significant numbers, nor do they act as a coordinated whole. They are a very small group of individuals scattered all over the world. As such, they do not have common opinions or goals. Indeed, modern high elves cannot even truly be said to have a culture–only a past filled with glory and regret.
Silvermoon withdrew from the Alliance, choosing to isolate itself as it viewed elves as superior to other races. Those that remained with the Alliance rejected this.
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If it was confirmed to be the case that the early settlers interbred with the Vrykul, and to my knowledge that is far from confirmed, it still would’ve been over 2,700+ years ago.
Utilizing the average generational length in the modern day, 25.5 years, we can determine that ~105.8 generations would’ve come and gone since that initial intermixing. Those numbers in mind, and presuming my math is more-or-less correct, that would translate to something like a 0.47% genetic influence.
There almost certainly wouldn’t be an 8,000 post megathread about the subject, at the very least.
Not likely, especially considering the Horde received a playable version of Night Elves (our second most played race) which is an even closer approximation to the original than High Elves would be to Blood Elves. The world didn’t end.
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to late for that. It has already been established that the player void elf is a former blood elf. If high elves do come alter well the void elf player is still a blood elf due to the timeline.
You mean, when they left the Alliance a handful of years ago? After the Lich King attacked?
No, I mean when they withdrew from the Alliance near the end of the Second War.
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… So you’re the reason this thread keeps getting locked due to extreme number of flags. ![:thinking:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/thinking.png?v=6" ":thinking:")
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Oh I see, that’s what’s confusing me a little bit.
After the Second War when they did receed, you’re saying the the elves that stayed behind are snootier than the elves that stayed with the humans because they weren’t as bitter.
Gotcha.
aye. In warcraft 3 quel’thelas was not part of the alliance. Sure kael’thas took his army after the scourge attack to link up with the alliance forces consolidating with at dalaran but they still never rejoined the alliance officially. As is shown not long after quel’thelas turned its’ back on the alliance for good.
So honestly this discussion about playable high elves should have no mention of quel’thelas or even void elves as both are non factors of this discussion. We want high elves. The high elves of stormwind and dalaran and of the lodges. The former high elves of lordaeron (which had to of had a large natural population seeing as they made up a large part of the lordaeron military in warcraft 3)
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I don’t think those exist in great numbers anymore though, do they?
That doesn’t matter for an allied race, as void elves prove. When Blizzard was saying in the past that there were too few High Elves to be playable, they meant as a base race, not as an allied race, a concept that didn’t exist.
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the lordaeron ones probably not but those of dalaran and stormwind should all be alive except those that volunteered to stay behind to fight the scourge. Dalaran was fully evacuated by the time the scourge attacked it per chronicles volume 3. So during that mission in warcraft 3 everyone in the city was a soldier.
also the basic math I did in this thread and the primer a few days ago points out that there still has to be tens of thousands of high elves in the alliance from what little canon numbers we do have.
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I don’t think that’s true. They didn’t specify that they’re too few for “a base race” because there were only base races. They said they were too few for a playable race.
No, they do not.
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So, what about Blizzard stating this:
In consequence, there are so few high elves left on Azeroth today that they cannot be considered a race in anything other than the biological sense. High elves do not gather in any significant numbers, nor do they act as a coordinated whole. They are a very small group of individuals scattered all over the world. As such, they do not have common opinions or goals. Indeed, modern high elves cannot even truly be said to have a culture–only a past filled with glory and regret.
I pasted it earlier but I think it was overlooked.
No, but as allied races didn’t exist at the time, that’s what was meant. Allied races don’t follow this rule, otherwise Void Elves wouldn’t be playable.
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I do believe that quote is so old it is no longer relevant to what has been said since.
As I said the basic math I did leaves at a minimum tens of thousands of alliance high elves. If they want to say that is little in number they can go ahead but per what they have written that is how it has to be.
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