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But not because of the Blood Elves themselves, which is the point I’m making. These High Elves have been removed from society at large, and have not witnessed any of the steps towards redemption the Blood Elves have made like the other High Elves. They were not around when the Sin’dorei went to outland and slayed Kael’thas, who essentially stood for everything they were against. They were not there when the well was relit. All things they responded to positively when mentioned by Lor’themar. All their views are outdated, and don’t accurately reflect upon all High elves who have actually resided around Blood Elves like the ones in Dalaran.

If they didn’t care about Silvermoon they wouldn’t care what happened to it, who took it over. The fact that despite not living there, or having any obligation to protect it, and protecting it anyway shows loyalty and devotion. She even refers to it as her home.

And the quest-giver for the Quel’danil lodge was deliberately changed from Blood Elves to Forsaken to emphasize the fact that the Blood Elves do not willfully quarrel with the High elves.

The purge is pretty isolated though. And the only “acts of brutality” take place in the sewers, which again is not limited to only High Elves vs Blood Elves, but High Elves vs High Elves and Blood elves vs Blood Elves. This does not reflect on the race as a whole, but each individual. That’s why when you enter the Dalaran sewers you are not only flagged against the apposing faction, but against even your own faction.

One High Elf mage does not represent the entire Silver Covenant. The quest to kill him even specifies that he’s a particularly nasty elf. It’s not sugar-coating anything, you’re taking the act of one elf and saying it reflects on all of them, which isn’t true.

I don’t need to watch a video on the Quel’Delar questline, I’ve done it myself. When you first walk in the first thing you see are High Elves and Blood Elves sitting together laughing and chatting. I see no evidence of anyone hounding over High Elves, or making them feel unwelcomed. But if you say that’s the case, I would appreciate you showing me an example because I spent a lot of time in that instance, and saw no proof of that.

The only Blood Elves that died were the ones that fought. High Elves were not just killing Blood Elves willy nilly.

Doing something on accident is not the same as “forcing” them out. Just like when Alleria “accidentally” summoned a void lord into the Sunwell, this could easily happen with the Void elves in Stormwind.

I disagree that they would strike out on their own. I believe they would return to Silvermoon.

Using the word “spontaneous” is a bit weird in this context as it’s not what I said in the slightest. As we’ve seen with the Sunwell they are not in full control of the void, and that the void can use them as conduits to cross over. The Blood Elves in the rift did not intend to be corrupted and changed into void elves, the void used and deceived them. I don’t see why it’s hard to believe that it could happen again.

The ones that were corrupted would likely stay with the other Ren’dorei and learn to cope and live life as a Void Elf, but the ones who wish to remain connected to the Sunwell, and remain uncorrupted might certain go running to Silvermoon or Quel’danas for refuge.

Either or, the point stands that Quel’thalas was built in harmony with nature and the indigineous wildlife, and while they were no longer druids they had great respect for nature. Blood Elves still uphold these views as well. A stark contrast to the void elves who seem content on corrupting the wildlife with the void, and opening portals to the void everywhere.

You can call it wishful thinking, I see many of your points to be presumptuous, and over-exaggerative myself, but you don’t see me insulting your points simply because I don’t agree.

Again, it’s easier to adjust something that really doesn’t effect any other element of the game on a large scale, compared to an allied race that bears a very striking resemblance to the most popular race on the other faction. There’s just far more to take into consideration with allied races than new druid form shapes. You can literally change the appearances of your druid form shapes to look distinctive because these customization do not bear on other elements of the game. It is akin to glyphs changing your water elemental into a waterbound elemental.

Well I’m simply referring to the term that was used when the question was asked. They wanted to know if newer skin colors would be added to live the “High Elf” fantasy on the alliance.

Most of the High Elves were priests, or rangers. Paladins were rare, but I think that’s because paladins are more rooted in human history.

There are High elves willing to study the void, and there are Blood Elves. These outliers are the exception to the majority. They are likely the High elves that left before the fel was introduced, and mana siphoning.

The guards refer to them in that way because of the feud between the Farstriders and the Magisters, not because Silvermoon at large looks down upon them. The leader of Silvermoon’s defenses and Lor’themar himself are farstriders.

The guards will kneel to you even if you’re a hunter.

I wouldn’t say that’s true. In the most recent patch lor’themar got a whole remodel for his character, giving him a distinctive appearance from the generic copy&paste thalassian model Lady Liadrin has.

And yet Kalec was aided by Lor’themar and Halduron in his pursuit for Anveena. Saying he was disrespected by everyone sounds like another case of over-exaggeration.

And if we’re referring to treatment, High Elves aren’t regarded very nicely on the Alliance either.

Most books and short stories mentioning this have been retconned, or are no longer canon.

The Silver Covenant was comprised to ensure there is no Horde uprising. It was not a personal jab at Blood Elves. In fact, the High Elves and Blood Elves got along famously in Dalaran before Jaina went blood thirsty. In Suramar the Kirin Tor High Elves actually specifically state that they would not permit fighting among the Night Elves and Blood Elves.

Splitting off doesn’t change that they are still an essential part of Blood Elf lore, them being in the Alliance faction doesn’t change that at all.

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And that really doesn’t meant anything aside from the fact they never saw the Blood Elves as redeemable.

She just doesn’t like the Blood Elves living there.

They are all Horde.

And that’s just an assumption. It’s far more accurate to say they wanted to use more Forsaken like they did all over the northern EK in Cataclysm.

And it’s a huge worldchanging event that destroyed relations even further with the Blood Elves and the Alliance/High Elves.

Out of sight of the Kirin Tor. The fact is they did it. Not from any instruction. There is no saying they are not responsible as a group for it.

This was not an individual by individual situation. This was an army removing the Blood Elves and large numbers taking the opportunity to torture and murder them.

You can’t sugar coat this out of existence. This is an undeniable act of aggression.

That’s just game mechanics. It has no bearing at ALL on what happened.

And the ones drowning them in sinks where sure isolated when they where surrounded by comrades and helping.

Why would one guy do that if they where on good terms? Why would they want to torture them if they liked each other?

Your wishful thinking does not change facts.

If you are doing it on Alliance and the blade rejects Lor’themar he orders you and the High Elves to be arrested because of suspected trickery.

Some where. And drowning them.

Stop trying to lighten it up just to suit your argument.s These things happened.

Completely different situation that has no way of confirming your totally made up and highly specific scenario.

Why would they return to Silvermoon and why would Silvermoon welcome them?

They chose their Allies over Silvermoon and those allies helped them through their darkest times.

Even Kael’thas feared returning because he studied in Dalaran. And that is nowhere near as big a choice as what the High Elves did.

Not to mention there are many many places in the Alliance they could go. The idea that Silvermoon would even be a choice at this point is unrealistic.

They where specifically corrupted by a malevolent being. Not by some freak accident.

You really think they Void Elves would not only have a highly specific corrupting mistake but one that ONLY affects High Elves? But EVERY High Elf as well all over the globe? And that the Alliance would not help them despite always doing so in the past to the point they would rejoin to people they REJECTED over their allies?

Not only does this require several huge leaps in logic, it requires completely ignoring established lore about the two groups and their relations.

See above.

No they don’t. Only kneel to Paladins.

It’s not just between the Magesters and Farstriders, but the Blood Elves as a whole.

Fun fact. One of the insults thrown at the righters in Silvermoon was “Go back to your forest!”.

This is a case of city elves versus country elves.

The Blood Elves have moved away from the rangers and hunters and focus more on Paladins and Lightworship as their cultural development.

Most High Elves have stuck with the Ranger theme and large groups of them are either Rangers or live in the forest.

They literally apologised to him when they realised he was actually a Blue Dragon. They would not need to do so if there was no mistreatment.

These are recent and cannon.

“The Silver Covenant is a militant core of high elves that reject the admission of blood elves into the Kirin Tor”

Literally their in game description.

You don’t form a military to reject a group if you are on good terms or trust them.

That is the past. The Blood Elves are Blood Elves and the High Elves are High Elves. They are in opposite factions and have had many battles and disagree on a fundamental level.

Their storys branch from the same point. But they are separate.

Except when they fight each other that is.

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This guy just went here with “I’m a troll” wrote in the front of his head.

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No, it means they weren’t around during the Blood Elve’s redemption. So to them they were still the same Elves that exiled them and followed Kael’thas. Had nothing to do with them being redeemable.

If she didn’t like the Blood Elves living there, she wouldn’t have been working with Halduron, or assisting them at all. In fact she and Halduron got along very nicely, and treated each other like compatriots. Halduron reached out to her, suggesting that there was enough good will between the two that he knew she’d heed his call for the sake of their homeland.

The point was there was no reason for the Blood Elves to be involved. The forsaken made more sense because they had no relations to the High Elves. Coincidentally they were replaced shortly after the novel “In the Shadow of the Sun” was released. But if you want to say that it’s merely an assumption, oh well.

It didn’t change anything though because High elves were added to the game and given positive relations with Blood Elves even after the purge. If it was truly “worldchanging” it would be a mentality shared by all High elves.

Yes they killed Blood Elves in the sewers, but they’ve also killed High Elves in the sewers. This does not reflect on the High Elves as a whole.

It was an individual by individual situation. The High elves as a group were not “torturing” or “murdering” them. They were ordered to imprison the Sunreavers by Jaina, and were forced to fight the ones that fought. That is a far cry from going out to gleefully murder High Elves. Just as Rommath and the other blood elves had to slay High elves to rescue the Sunreavers, it was not something they liked doing, and even stated as much. You’re confusing their duty as soldiers for some personal satisfaction. Which isn’t the case at all.

Again, it’s not sugar-coating anything. You’re exaggerating the situation to make a point, and I’m telling you that I don’t agree. If this is just gonna resort into you repeating that you think I’m sugar-coating then there’s nothing more to be said about it.

Even if you ignore the fact that your allies are flagged, it’s still explained in the underbelly quests. Ironically the Dalaran sewers are run by a corrupted High elf named Raethan who will willing take bribe and allow Horde players to hire High elf guards to fight against the Alliance and other High elves. Although I’m curious why you’re still defending the Quel’danil kill target argument if you were willing to use this response as your defense here. Unless you’re intentionally trying to be facetious which isn’t contributing anything to this conversation besides antagonizing. Which I’m really not interested in doing.

Are we still talking about the underbelly?

Actually if you’re doing it on any race besides a blood elf they arrest you and suspect you of trickery, it has nothing to do with Auric being a High elf. Although this is not what I asked you provide evidence of. You said that the High elves were being hounded, harassed and treated poorly, and if that’s true I would like you to offer me evidence proving it.

Again, the ones that were fighting them in the sewers. The only ones that died were the ones that fought. It’s not about lightening up anything, you just keep saying the same thing.

How is that a completely different situation? Alleria didn’t intentionally summon the void lords into the Sunwell, which were trying to corrupt and use it for themselves. Why is the idea that the void would also use the Void elves to corrupt others so far-fetched?

They would return to Silvermoon because it’s their home, and many other High elves like Auric Sunchaser can be found there. The Blood elves can offer them security, and safety, and they could remain close to the Sunwell. Silvermoon would welcome them because Lor’themar and many other leaders like Aethas Sunreaver, Halduron Brightwing and Tae’thelan Bloodwatcher have expressed great interest in unifying together, and mending relations between the children of Silvermoon.

They chose their allies because they had no where else to go, and even these allies did not trust them fully. It was stated that when they returned to the Alliance, the humans were one of the few races that actually allowed the High elves in. And that other races did not trust them after their seclusion. Should for some reason they have to leave I find it far more unrealistic that they’d degrade themselves by becoming homeless refugees in some random capital than to return home to Silvermoon where they possibly left many family members, friends, and even homesteads. There’s plenty of possibilities.

They were manipulated and corrupted by a void lord, and their subservient ethereal. It would be an accident on the void elves part, but not so much the void’s.

Where did I say it would only effect High elves? Or that it would effect every high elf across the globe? The only reason I’m specifying High elves is because that is what we’re discussing. Elves are notoriously sensitive to magic, and we’ve seen it can easily corrupt, and alter them drastically. If the void were to use the Void elve’s connection to attack again, like at the Sunwell, it is not hard to believe that the High elves could be effected. If they felt the void elves put them in danger why would that be any different than what occurred with the fel? Like the Blood Elves they would see the void elves as a threat not only to them, but to their very way of life as it threatens the very sanctity of the Sunwell itself.

I’m not leaping at all, you’re attempting to blanket isolated events as if they’re universal. You want to say that because there are High elves that have killed blood elves that all High elves must hate them despite the fact that there are many scenarios where this is not the case, where they get along and coexist harmoniously. When that doesn’t work you resort to name-calling or antagonizing me with facetious remarks. It’s a carousal where the only one allowed to ride is you.

Yes, they do kneel to any Blood Elf. I was just on my mage and they knelt to me at the door and will choose from a few preselected quotes. If you don’t believe me you can check it out yourself.

No one is saying there isn’t strife among them, this was one of the biggest reasons why Lor’themar had to exile some elves, because it was dividing his nation. They’re partisan groups that don’t agree, but they’re all still loyal to each other. Sylvanas was the leader of the farstriders and she’s still renowned as one of the most famous heros in Silvermoons past.

They’re not moving away from Farstriders, there’s simply two different groups with different views. During the faction assaults you can see Blood elf rangers and priests fighting the alliance. Both groups are present. Wanna tell me where the Silver Covenant is during this faction war in Bfa if they’re so dedicated to the Alliance? Wanna show me any of them taking part in actual combat?

I didn’t say there was no mistreatment, merely that you’re over-exaggerating when you say “everyone” mistreated him. Although I personally didn’t see any occasion were he was personally attacked for being a half-elf.

Cite these recent, canon stories?

Because the Blood Elves were representing the Horde. That entry goes on to say “and have taken it upon themselves to serve as a military deterrent for any potential Horde uprising”

It doesn’t matter that it’s the past, it’s still a fact that the High elves are a huge part in Blood elf history. Lor’themar could have easily kept the Sunwell to himself, and not allowed any High elves but he does despite all these “disagreements” suggesting that despite the fact that they don’t always agree, they are all children of Quel’thalas. This is not only said by a blood elf, but a High elf as well.

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Something that could be an interesting twist on adding more Void Elves would be having some battle or maybe a warfront featuring the Void elves and some Blood elves going against each other.

Use the visit of Alleria to the Sunwell as foreshadowing.
Visit a bit of the vampire idea of the void elves, and have them lose control of the hunger with the void lashing out and consuming the light from the contingent of blood elves leaving them void corrupted.

The blood elves could attempt to return home to find they are certainly not welcome for fear of them corrupting the Well.

The Void Elves offer to give them a place as they were exiled as well and the source of the problem and can teach them to control the corruption.

Then the blood elves can set about devising a way to protect against the void.

High Elves could be added and not affected as they aren’t linked to the light via the sunwell in the same manner as the Blood Elves.

Just throwing out ideas.

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Interesting ideas!

Although the High elves are actually connected to the Sunwell in the same way the Blood Elves are according to “In the shadow of the Sun” All Thalassian elves draw upon the Sunwell no matter how far they stray from it. It’s said they can even draw from it from different worlds. High elves are even more devoted to the light with their priests than most blood elves.

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So to the High Elves the Blood Elves are still monsters.

The Void Elves leaving and talking to them about the Oppressive nature of Silvermoon and the Horde, Blood Elves included, would not change their perception of them.

And the Blood Elves never got “Redeemed” they just got their problems fixed for them.

And latter she perged them from Dalaran.

Any good will that might have existed is long dead between the silver Covenant and the Blood Elves.

You are putting more point into this then what was actually there.

The Quel’Danil Elves are enemies of the Horde. The same Horde the Forsaken and Blood Elves are are part of.

Why would they ever leave the Wildhammers whm the have one of the deepest connections too?

A and even more where they where at War.

No it wasn;t. It was one event and a bunch of bad things happened. The Silver Covenant rounded up a bunch of Blood Elves they where supposed to arrest and tortured and murdered a few of them. Some just arrested them but the fact remains a bunch of them took the opportunity to MURDER and TORTURE the Blood Elves. There would have NEVER been those wanting to do that if they where on good terms.

It was all the same event and not an isolated incident like you keep trying to twist it to.

No you are. You are trying to pretend important key things aren’t important things just to suit your arguments.

You ignore all fighting and try to downplay every hostility and over exaggerate every good relation despite the fact they had a lot of negative factors with them.

You blow the

This is a non factor. PC flagging has nothing to do with scripted NPC events.

It does not and will never matter in this discussion. The NPCs didn’t go “Your Flagged so I’m going to gank you.”

Auric was cornered by guards just as much as anyone else. They would not do that if he had rights there.

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No they don’t. I checked.

You really think any High Elf would respect Sylvanas?

Yes they are. They still exist but are no longer a central role.

Oh no, they only missed 2 xpacs since their introduction. That’s more screen time then Gnomes!

Not like there are High Elves in the 7th legion or anything.

btw where are the Tauren forces this Xpac? /eyeroll

Lor’themar and and Rommath literally looked down on him for being a halfbreed. They latter apologised when they found out what he was.

Some of the MoP short stories and some quest quotes. Off the top of my head.

One of the shorts had a Dwarf mention to a Blood Elf that his wife in Farstrider lodge hates his guts for being a Blood Elf.

But it literally says they are opposed to the Blood Elves joining. The “Horde Uprising” is in addition to that.

You forget that Varessa hated Blood Elves because her cousin who was one tried to feed on her Children. She was against the Blood Elves themselves.

And now they are separate groups and are going to stay so for the foreseeable future.

A few kind gestures and the extremely odd circumstance aren’t going to change that.

High Elves are firmly and adamantly rooted in the Alliance with nothing foreseeable able to change that. Blood Elves are always going to be in the Horde and nothing is going to change that.

Because that’s what it would take for them to leave.

And High Elves don’t need the Sunwell as much as Blood Elves do. If the Sunwell became corrupted with Void then they would simply do without again.

Even Ion states the Blood Elves and High Elves have a different relation to the Sunwell.

High Elves don’t have Gold Eyes so why would they get Void Infused? The Blood Elves are the ones in danger in this scenario.

The Void Elves are just one part of the Alliance and they are many of other Alliance Races/Places they could go.

There is no reason to think they would go to the people who they rejected for their Allies and became monsters in their eyes just because the Void Elves are doing anything.

And even if they where affected then they would not have to leave the Alliance. They would just have to go to Alleria for help.

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You pretty much described the forums.

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To the specific group that isolated themselves from the world, yes. Why that’s relevant I have no idea.

Oppressive nature? If anything the High elves would understand exactly why the Void elves were exiled, for the Void elves are doing the exact same things the High elves were disgusted over when they left Silvermoon.

They were redeemed, it was the whole prophecy the Naaru had laid out. They killed Kael’thas, saw the error in their ways and embraced the light. I’m going to ignore another attempt at antagonizing.

Not true, because in the novel with Alleria, and Sylvanas she stated that she has hope that the Sin’dorei will once again join the Alliance. If Vareesa truly did not care about the Blood Elves she would not care whether or not they joined the Alliance. There is still plenty of good will between the Silver Covenant and the Blood Elves.

I’m not putting more point in anything. Shortly after the novel was released the Blood Elf quest-givers were “mysteriously” replaced with forsaken, and their text altered. You can’t just say “The Elves are enemies of the Horde” because you’re not actually contributing anything to the point.

I didn’t say that the Quel’danil elves would leave? I’m pointing out that the change in race for the quest givers was to reflect the Blood elves unwillingness to combat the High elves directly.

My argument was never that they weren’t at war? Merely that a large portion remained neutral, or even friendly to the Blood Elves. I don’t need to prove that every single High elf likes every single Blood Elf, merely that not all High elves hate blood elves. And despite the faction war, the Silver Covenant very rarely engaged against the Blood Elves.

The majority of the Silver Covenant did not harm the Blood elves, this includes the ones above ground, and even the majority of the sewers where most were simply rounded up or arrested. But as I said before, the actions of a few do not reflect on the race as a whole, as much as you’d like to think it does. If it were, there would be no cases of good relations between the two races, but the only example you have is an isolated incident involving one partisan group of High elves, to which the majority did not even take part in any killing. This does not suggest they all hate Blood Elves but the exact opposite.

No because I’ve pointed out examples of High elves getting along with Blood Elves, and for some reason you think the occasions where some bicker or fight completely invalidate them. That the occasions they get along have no validity. You over exaggerate and presume that the actions of a few reflect the mindset of the masses, despite many of them being peaceful.

They’re not NPC events. Raethan is canonically corrupted and is willing to sell off his guards to anyone willing to pay him. His dialogue directly reflects this.

Auric is standing in front of the Sunwell by himself. There are no guards cornering him. He then walks up to the player to congratulate them for restoring the Quel’danar. And I’ll ask again, please provide me evidence of the High elves being hounded and made to feel uncomfortable, unsafe. I’ve asked 3 times already and you keep deflecting back to Auric when I’m asking you to prove an earlier claim.

I literally just responded to this clarifying that I never said only High elves, or that it would effect high elves all over the globe. So I will quote myself instead of typing again.

Where did I say it would only effect High elves? Or that it would effect every high elf across the globe? The only reason I’m specifying High elves is because that is what we’re discussing. Elves are notoriously sensitive to magic, and we’ve seen it can easily corrupt, and alter them drastically. If the void were to use the Void elve’s connection to attack again, like at the Sunwell, it is not hard to believe that the High elves could be effected. If they felt the void elves put them in danger why would that be any different than what occurred with the fel? Like the Blood Elves they would see the void elves as a threat not only to them, but to their very way of life as it threatens the very sanctity of the Sunwell itself.

I literally spend 90% of my time in Silvermoon with my guild, and they’ve always bowed to me. In fact I just signed on my mage and they did it as well. So you’re clearly wrong.

What does that have to do with what I’m saying? I’m making the point that Silvermoon still highly respects Farstriders, not that High elves like Sylvanas.

If they’re no longer central why would they bother included them in the invasion assaults? What would taking a “central role” entail? The leader of Silvermoon’s defenses is literally run by the Farstrider captain. He is the first and foremost trusted ally of Lor’themar. Another example of you exaggerating.

There are Tauren forces in the Assaults, they just showed up in the questline for the defense of Dazar’alor as well. If there are High elves in the 7th legion I wonder why the only elves I’ve seen are void elves. I also cannot fathom why you’re so offended and hostile. I’ve had disagreements with many people on this page and we’ve all remained docile with one another, but you just seem intent on making this a mud-throwing contest.

Looked down upon him how?

This is not citing anything. Names? Quest names? Short story names? If these incidents are as prevelant as you’re making them out to be, surely you can’t be struggling to muster up something?

Also, did you finish that quest with the Dwarf? You do remember he apologizes to the Blood Elf at the end and admits that she does not hate him. He gives the dwarf either a necklace or a ring to give to her, and the blood elf dies ensuring his escape off an airship. The dwarf brings it to his wife, and she cries. She also states that she misses him very much. You should really take the time to actually read and finish the quest for citing it as an argument on poor relations. Many of the High elves have children and wives among the Blood elves, whom of which they miss and love very much.

It was merely Vereesa that objected to them because they were a part of the horde, not because they were blood elves. And Vereesa did not say she hated the Blood elves because of her cousin, in fact she defended the honor of the blood elf name

Vereesa did not believe Zendarin was worthy of calling himself a blood elf, stating they would reject him as she would. Indeed, Zendarin seemed to somewhat miss the point of being a blood elf (a name taken to honor the fall of the high elves), as he reveled in the extinction of the quel’dorei.

I really wish you would take the time to actually read these things before posting them to me.

It’s funny that you describe them as “few” kind gestures and “Extremely odd” when describing any event involving High Elves and Blood elves getting along, but when they fight it’s a clear indication that they enemies that hate each other with no hope for unification. This is the exaggeration I mentioned earlier.

It’s not only about needing the Sunwell, it’s the most sacred and revered place for all Thalassian elves. It’s the reason why so many Quel’dorei make the pilgrimage to visit and bathe in it’s light. Yes they could go without, all elves can, but with it they are stronger and no longer have to meditate or suffer the pangs of withdrawal.

Having gold eyes has nothing to do with the possibility of being void-infused. What is this jump? And it’s likely they don’t have gold eyes yet because the well is both arcane and holy, and as there is nothing to purify from the High elves, there is no reason for their eye color to change. Although I’m not sure why you think eye color puts them at risk.

There aren’t many places for them to go where they wouldn’t be homeless refugees. Many of the races don’t even allow them into their cities, or even trust them as it is. How crazy of an idea that they’d return home to their families, friends, and loved ones back home instead of living on the streets of some random capital.

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Omg thank you for a WONDERFUL new RP idea!
I can see it now: ‘‘Larry the Cable Elf’’.
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Hahahahahah

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To most High Elves.

Have you seen silvermoon? It’s a totalitarian state.

The got a new fix. If it was gone they would go right back to using Fel and syphoning from living creatures.

She also said that one they they will be redeemed. Believing they are not.

This is just you making up stuff.

You are literally trying to say an Anti Blood Elf faction would join the Blood Elves. You are ignoring all the strife in an attempt to justify your weird scenario.

So? These did not happen in a vacuum like you’re trying to sat. It was literally added to show in black and white the hatred and strife between the two groups.

They would not have been there and doing that if there was not a great deal of hatred.

The fact is the Silver Covenant forcibly evicted the Blood Elves and it involved several incidents of torture and murder.

And it still has 100% no relation to what happened during the purge.

https://youtu.be/NHsiVES1fQs?t=1850 When Lor’themar triest to take it on Alliance version Auric is cornered by guards.

I’m going to have to farm the thing up because I can’t find some specific things.

Then why would High Elves as a whole have to pick up and leave the Alliance because of what the Void Elves are doing?

If it wasn’t specific to High Elves then why would they feel forced to leave?

If it didn’t affect them all over then why would High Elves nowhere near this hypothetical thing want to leave?

Your argument literally can’t hold ground under any kind of logic.

Well it doesn’t work on my hunter. So either there are specific ones that you are mixing up with the /eye emote or they specifically don’t do it for hunters.

Still proving my point along with the dialogue text.

Because they have taken a backseat to the Blood Knight narrative and this is further supported by the dialogue.

They are still there and part of the Army but they are no longer the pride of quel’thalas.

Yet the fact remains they are still at odds with each other.

Peace in Dalaran? Undone by the purge?

Rushing to Zul’aman? Met with open hostilities.

They have spent more time fighting and being at odds with each other then at piece.

You are literally trying to say that the Sunwell being turned to Void would make the High Elves leave the Alliance. That’s literally how this conversation started.

There is literally no lore that says they aren’t allowed in some cities. Which city are they not allowed in exactly? Are you citing a decannon RPG?

The ones they left for their Allies that that have a deep unspoken connection too because they had completely different ideals?

The ones that during their darkest hour when the prince called them to help save their people they went “Na”?

The ones who are so fundamentally different from each other that they no longer consider each other the same people?

Highly unlikely.

They would either go to other members of the Alliance or they would do their own thing. Because the things that keep them seperate are still keeping them seperate.

Also, could you quote the part of the argument you are responding too? It makes it extremely difficult to read and respond to what your saying if I don’t know what you’re responding too.

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High Elves vs Wood Elves is pretty much a thing in every fantasy setting.

Ironically in Warcraft you see it represented with the Night Elves being a nocturnal wood elf and the Highborne were their “High Elf”

So now you see it with the Nightborne and Night Elves.

but by extension it works for Blood Elf / High Elves. With the Blood Elves effectively being the High Elves and the remaining High Elves being the Wood Elves.

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Basically you got your Dark City/Wood Elves and you got your average City/Wood Elves.

And then you got your super Dark Elves and then you got your Snake and Spider Elves along with your Zombie/Ghost/Vampire Elves with the odd Demon Elves.

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Next comes Crab/Lobster Elves in rise of Azshara.

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Haha. Pretty soon We’ll see Wretched Blood Elves soon or something unholy within the Sunwell for the Sin’dorei.

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Next up, the Andu’dorei, Mana Elves! I can see it now. Aluneth was freed from the staff, took on the form of a Mana Elf, and transformed all of the High Elves into arcane entities like itself. They’ll be blue, having glowing energy hair…

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night elves are not just wood elves. They are a very rare form of elf that is the wild elf. Take wood elves and turn the dial to 11. They are fanatical and completely in twine with nature.

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I want my High Elf Hunter and Night Elf Paladin, please Blizzard :grin:

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