The small group idea is losing a lot of its flair when in the recent war campaign 1/6 of the army is Void Elf Sorcerers.
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I agree, but such is Blizzard uneven storytelling. Itâs not the first time they make small numbers seem overwhelming.
What could go wrong, right?
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Thatâs what has been bugging me about Void Elves. Like we HAVE to end up on a place where they can create more, thatâs a necessity of their existence, but the current narrative and extra-info is incredibly vague about How this would take place, and less so when we would be seeing new Void Elves being created.
Because thatâs the thing so far; thereâs still nothing within the narrative that confirms that Void Elves can replicate the process. Factually they canât. Like yeah, common sense does tells us they eventually will find a way to make more, but so far the lore just sinât telling us they can make more right now.
So hereâs the thing, how in the heavens are Void Elves currently so seemingly populous when there is no addressing of HOW they could be bolstering their numbers? Like best case scenario we can count the High Elf Wayfarers and Blood Elven Scholars as new Void Elves in practice and say there is where their numbers come from, but if so, they shouldnât look like the first generation VEâs and instead more like Alleria.
That is evident that VEâs will find a way to bolster their numbers doesnât mean that right now they can. Thereâs quite literally, no confirmation; and when the ritual that made them was a one-off accident, to assume they somehow can replicate it since there is just no addressing of it in game, is simply, speculation at this point, not fact.
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Until they come out and say the plumbing doesnât work I will assume it does. In fact the void/old gods whole shtick with the curse of the flesh is to make inorganic machines, into living, breathing, baby making, meat sacks.
As an aside⌠I actually like the idea that the void elves are drawing numbers from Blood Elves, the idea that they are utterly disgusted with the Horde and looking for something else is kinda cool. I just wish they expanded on it. Like so many good ideas Blizzard has they kinda just muck it up by fumbling around ham fistedly leaving everyone else to fill in the blanks, or figure out how it could have worked.
Beware that Silvermoon Warfront we may getâŚ
The Sunwell being corrupted and unleashing the void, and lots of elves being forcibly turned because of their link to it, could very well end up being true.
Me too. Who are these elves? What they want? Why are they seeking the void? Why didnât they just defect to the Alliance before?
Yeah, but the void elves are about using that power with care, and I think they may be very careful with experiments to replicate the turning. They could very well end up creating abominations or dooming people to madness.
Alleria didnât get her powers the same way as the void elves. She learned by practice, and didnât transform. If those elves in Telogrus are just learning, not being turned, then theyâd end up like Alleria⌠after years, maybe centuries, of training.
We donât know of any ritual to replicate the original event, and the devs said in the interview that the void elves are not recruiting, just welcoming like-minded elves that come to seek a way to replicate the process. We have never seen such process, and the interview is ambiguous enough to keep us guessing if such process exists or is just a future plot device.
I donât see the Sunwell being corrupted actually happening (they did just give Blood Elves golden eyes after all).
What would be cool however, would be if the Sunwell Plateau pulled a Stargate: Atlantis and became a flying city. Basically a Horde Dalaran so actual Dalaran can stop playing Neutral when convenient. But that idea has its own problems.
It would be cool in an expansion where we leave Azeroth to fight the Void Lords if there was a Blood Elf flying magical city and a Void Elf flying magical city as the main hubs for the factions in the Void Lordâs territory.
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I donât think the Void elves are practicing their magic too carefully, as their presence in Zandalar shows them forcibly infusing the void into the indigenous wildlife and creating void abomination from them. As others have mentioned, the Void Elves are very similar to the Blood Elves before the Burning Crusade, and that their conquest for power through such chaotic and potential dangerous void magic could certainly lead to some devastating results.
That being said the Void Elves have been very prevalent in the Alliance war campaign as of yet, which has me wondering just how many Void elves there really are, and by what means they might go through to bolster their numbers. I had mentioned previously that the Void Elves would possibly begin to influence, or effect other elves like the High Elves and inadvertently create more Renâdorei. It also leads me to believe that the Void elves outnumber the High elves by quite a bit, as theyâve seemed to have completely replaced the Quelâdorei as the Thalassian Alliance presence in the war.
They do note itâs not a mana-efficient way of using their powers and mostly a shock tactic. Also, Umbric says that the Void is dangerous and the creature (in the case of the demosaur, but I assume itâs also valid for the raptors) need to be undone before it grows too powerful to control.
I do think theyâve been mostly careful with their power. Except those guys from the Riftrunners.
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I am not sure we are talking about the same thing⌠I agree that actively transforming additional Elves into void elves may be risky and I could totaly see them going VERY slowly on that front.
I am talking about creating void elves the old fashioned way, involving a mommy and daddy void elf and lots of diapers.
I have seen nothing to indicate that they are now sterile, (either the male or female reproductive organs do not work) and unless Blizzard explicitly says otherwise I am going to continue assuming they do.
The thing with populations is⌠if thereâs enough elves to bolster the Void Elf population then thereâs enough elves for us to have playable High Elves as an allied race.
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Look at the isle of thunder. Silver covenant was shown to be a major military force. Iâm just going to assume that the first group of void elves was numbering in something much larger than originally shown and all those we see to present are part of that group. Blizzard has never been good at thinking ahead.
Mana efficiency sounds more like a resource problem, then their ability to assess the dangers of meddling with the void. And Iâm pretty sure all the Void elves are aware that the void is dangerous, itâs one of the first things Alleria warns them about upon meeting them in the rift. But even she worries that her strength alone will not be enough to hold the void at bay should things between her and Turalyon end poorly. The void elves are playing with chaotic magic they have little understanding of, and before they can master it theyâre creating dangerous void beasts and corrupting nature. In my opinion, these are not the actions of careful Elves, but walking in the steps of Kaelâthas and the Sunfury. Not even the Sinâdorei or Quelâdorei meddled with nature.
The thing with populations is⌠if thereâs enough elves to bolster the Void Elf population then thereâs enough elves for us to have playable High Elves as an allied race.
Thatâs really not true, because we have no idea how many Blood Elves had left to become Renâdorei. All the Void elves presence tells us is that there was enough Blood Elves that left to become Void elves to represent a sizable military on the Alliance.
It means they know what they are doing and is not a tactic that they can do carelessly.
I donât disagree entirely. But my impression is that the void elves are researching and using what they have studied, while Kaelâthas was desperate for more power and willing to bargain with ever more dangerous entities.
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I think the Void elves are essentially being used to wean the High Elves out as a major âmilitaryâ force on the Alliance because their existence continuously contradicted their claims that there werenât enough to be playable race. Since The Void elves introduction I havenât seen a single High elf on any assault, campaign quest, or military invasion. Instead Iâm seeing Umbric and his Void elves everywhere, at a far larger scale than we ever saw the Silver Covenant either.
Thats just it, they keep tossing in High Elf NPCs into the picture. Especialy the new portal room in stormwind. You would think they would, and I also assumed that was the plan, and yet blizzard is once again showing that the right hand doesnt know what the left is doing.
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Isnât that similar to what Umbric is doing though? We saw what happened with Alleria at the Sunwell, and she has been said to have far more control and knowledge of the void than the Renâdorei. Like Kaelâthas theyâre meddling with magics they have merely begun to scratch the surface of, and now theyâre opening rifts into the void everywhere, and corrupting their surroundings with it. Like the incident with Alleria at the Sunwell, itâs only a matter of time before it backfires.
I imagine theyâre trying âsecretlyâ retcon the High elf presence in light of the newly introduced Void elves. While the left hand is saying âHey, thereâs not many High elves left besides the ones lounging around Stormwind!â the right is like âHey, what do you guys think of this huge high elf military in the Isle of Thunder?â And while they werenât really connecting the dots, the players that are actually paying attention are probably scratching their heads trying to understand what the hell is going on.
I would like to see some sort of reaction on behalf of Lorâthemar. He seems to be quite salty about the void elves joining the Alliance.
Perhaps he sees it as a failure of his leadership because Umbicâs group was actually sizable portion of Silvermoonâs population and he now has a constant flow of people seeking to join the void elves in their studies.
It almost mirrors the exile of the Quelâithian lodge group but this time he got more than he bargained for.
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Truth be told, Iâm playing devilâs advocate here and trying to give void elves a chance. But Iâm afraid you may be very very right. The only saving grace in this case is that void elves are playable, so they wonât ever all be corrupted completely.
But really, I just wanted high elves. The ones who refused Kaelâs path.
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