The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

I figured that’s what a lot of people were after, yeah. I think at least it would be a compromise if Blizzard aren’t keen on adding Silver Covenant story to the PC bunch.

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It wouldn’t be ideal, but I’d personally accept it.

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No confirmation, but there are strong suggestions already in place for why it’s possible. Alleria learning to harness the Void proves you can master it without needing to step into a catastrophic accident.

Many races have a 1st gen version and a 2nd gen version, in fact. Forsaken, for example. They’re still called Forsaken. Death Knights raised today are said to be raised by other Death Knights, whereas the older ones would’ve been raised by the Lich King’s forces. They’re all still Death Knights.

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It’s really a frustrating situation. In Blizzard’s effort to “keep their options open”, they made the Void Elf origin a handful of exiled Blood Elves. They could have made them originate from Alliance High Elves (and had the high elf customizations available at the get go), which while not providing the fantasy, would have at least been more palatable to High Elf fans.

The story would have been about High Elves instead of Blood Elves and it probably would have gone over a lot better than it did (even if they can’t be paladins which I believe is a sticking point for some).

But I believe Blizzard wanted to keep the option open for Alliance High Elves and that’s why Void Elves originate from Blood Elves.

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I really have to agree with this. It seems like it would’ve made so much more sense to have a small group of High Elves become Void Elves and then they recruit Blood Elves from the Horde, creating the bulk of the Void Elf “army”.

It seems backwards, but maybe there’s a reason? :confused:

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As you said, no confirmation. Alleria proves that any elf can potentially master the void like her did, we don’t need the same accident that made Void Elves, but in such case, it also leads to the expectation new VE’s should look like her so no blue skin and hair, just in voidform.

I do agree that more Void Elves can be made, but only a la Alleria, as so far there’s not a suggestion the OG botched ritual can be replicated safely, at all!

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Yea that part there is what most of us agree on cause it was rather baffling about it, When i first saw Void Elves first thing i thought is ‘high elves needed void to survive without the sunwell’ or they ‘copied’ Alleria both of which make more sense but renegade Blood Elves? seems like either they left the door open or wanted to kick people in the jewels.

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Lol, I still remember the WTF moment when I realized Ve’s wouldn’t be High Elves. It’s still baffling.

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Like Blizzard has done good race recruitment stories we can’t argue that in the past, but the BfA ones feel sloppy and odd, the VEs and Nightborne ones have oddities to them, HM and LFD seem fine (Even if given the alternate Lightforging) but still seemed grander then they should be, the Dark Irons and Draenor Orcs had a really good story to use regardless if you liked Yrel, Grom, Durotan etc, makes me wonder what the next 6 will be like for them since the ZTrolls are pushed into the Horde post raid and the Kul’tirans are already with the Alliance by current content and might go similar to Dark Irons it just didn’t take them years lol.

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It’s a curious situation for sure. But anyhow, I’m off to bed. Goodnight all!

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Yeah that one still confuses me also.
I guess blizzard just wants them in their back pocket for a rainy day.
(with the way BFA is going you think that would be soon)

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IMO while I would have liked to see more depth on the NB choice, thematically I totally understand why the chose the Blood Elves over the Night Elves; everything about them makes them closer to the former than the later, even if the looks would suggest otherwise. I liked it, NB and BE are far more alike than either are to NE, so it feels natural that if forced to choose they would.

Still, I would have liked to see more depth about it, 100%, even if it was “some NB weren’t happy to join a faction opposite to the NE’s so they have abstained from joining the horde” I would have really liked the idea neutral Nightborne being a thing, with Thalyssra understanding that and not forcing them to join the Horde.

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Oh i meant how the battle and talking scenarios with the NB went, granted every single Horde Embassy reaction to Sylvanas (except Draenor Orcs one) seems to annoy me at the end namely the NB one due to exchanging one tyrant for another sort of thing then you got the Alleria running off from Silvermoon and no’one trying to stop her? legend to there name or not it was unemotional, no depths, no drama all of which makes the story greater and more real then what we have.

Also we have oddities who have swapped factions or remained neutral, like Dalaran has neutral Humans, High Elves, Blood Elves and Gnomes commonly there while Alliance even has some Blood Elves like Valeera who chose to be there while Horde has some Humans and Kul’tiran Humans who chose to be there albiet money and bribery but still there, theres also that Goblin who is very trusted by SI:7 and Goblins aren’t the most trustworhy so makes you wonder that, we know Gnomes namely Leper infected and Undead ones do help the Horde too.

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Honestly I think Thalyssra didn’t thought Sylvanas was going to go this insane lol. Like, when she joined the Horde, Sylvanas was not the mess of warmongering warchief she is now.

As for the Alleria scenario. eh, it wasn’t the best, but I don’t really have much objections to it from a characterization standpoint. Like I understood it as the NB just vibeing with the BE’s and considering they would act much the same?

That was seeable from Legion launch they were basically super crack (cause i can’t say the other word) elves compared to the joked crack elves we already had plus they had a alot in common plus the issues they have with the majority of night elves it was coming.

Overall it was better then some things they could’ve done with the story.

That’s funny coming from someone who thinks Blue eyes + Tattoos is justifiable to make Blood Elves Playable for the alliance.

But back on topic, what possible story could you give the high elves at this point for the alliance to make them more distinct than the rest of the elves, still be consistent with lore, but at the same time won’t take away from void elves or blood elves.

make playable half elves and then split all the elves off into their own faction with suramar as their capitol city, split into elf districts.

its mesmerizingly beautiful and a much better city for elves than anywhere else in the game to date

WARNING: This is very relaxing. if you’re tired at all, it’ll put you to sleep. if you have things to do, dont watch this video with the music on

realize how big suramar is, how much work went into it, and what a waste it is that its not being used as an actual elven city beyond a tiny separate instance for new nightborne. i could see a beautiful world tree sprouting there.

it’s actually incredibly detailed.

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Elf faction, it’s about time, lets purge the lesser races from Azeroth. We will start with the Humans and the Greenskins for taking all of our screentime.

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we can have the observatories with the starry towers and a void portal to our floating rocks in space. maybe one day they’ll actually have a building on them lol

Possible story?

Well let’s see… there’s always the story of a people driven to near extinction, who are on the minority side of a political divide that has driven them to seek refuge with allies abandoned by their former brethren.

There’s the story of their struggle to maintain their own identity while living among other races and in many cases intermarrying/breeding with them, thus diluting their bloodlines and old identity.

There’s the story of the new identity they are cultivating to not only distance themselves from their former fellows but to also reestablish themselves as a people.

There’s the story of their mixed breed children trying to find their way in a world where they straddle two different cultures, and establish an identity for themselves.

I’d say there’s a veritable cornucopia of story material here that only tangentially and briefly touches on the Blood Elf narrative and has little to nothing to do with Void Elves.

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