The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

I can’t find the video but in an interview the Devs have said point blank void Elves were made because they felt it was a cool idea. They are not now nor ever were intended as a replacement for playable Alliance High elves everyone saying so is just spouting their own headcannon.

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My point is that is the only current instance of High Elves being addressed as a group, not that is empirically true and Elisande is unbiased.

Basically,she is making an observation about High Elves as a whole -def a biased one tbh- but is telling that their alleged their “near extinct” status isn’t brought up.

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If that’s the intention, it’s definitelly a failure as they just keep showing up. I really can’t buy they are meant to be shown as a dwindling presence when nothing in game supports that notion, nor even alludes to it. If they really intended so, it has been an utter failure. Giving then a faction of their own on WotLK and make it a reocurring one is just at odds with that.

Can’t agree with this at all. High Elven NPC’s have never been treated as a rare or exceptional sight, just another alliance force/member.

And that’s the problem, in game, the High Elves are there in a sort of stasis. They keep showing up so we can’t say they are being phased off, but they neither they seem to have anything planned for their future. They just hang around, and neither the narratives they are moving forward or they are dying out are touched upon.

That’s the issue, they are just there, and continue to be there, the issue the lack of resolution either way.

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I think instead of high elves being introduced as an entirely separate race it would make more sense to give blood elves their blue eyes back.

Considering they have gold eyes now and with

“Ultimately, it is a matter of time before the fel-power induced green glint reverts back to the blood elves’ regular high elven eyes. This process, however, may take a fairly long time.”

I think it’s about time they got their high elven eyes back.

only thing i can think of that could possibly substitute for alliance high elves is an even prettier/handsomer (spelling?) group of elves than the thalassian model races, but since the lore for such a thing is limited, it’d have to be made up entirely, even more absurdly than void elves … unless they went with decursed naga and gave them the full beauty treatment, with great animations and so on. and made them bards/sirens. and were very meticulous in their creation, with …well i wont go back into all that cause they only want to make allied races out of already existing races.

what does the alliance want for allied races?

we tell them.

what ELSE does the alliance want for allied races?

hehe

So you want blood elves on the alliance, basically?

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me? nah. i want them to look even more different from belfs than velfs do. but i do like the figure of belfs and their animations, not their idling animation with the hip jut and head tilt and smirk. not a fan of that. but everything else, both the males and the females have great casting animations and the females have the best run in the game. who ever did the belfs for the game pulled out all the stops. spared no expense. brilliant work considering the limitations of the technology.

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will never forget heelsvsbabyface video where he teaches his 70 year old mother how to play wow. and takes her thru all the races so she can select what race she wants to play. and she does not like wow elves because their ears and eyebrows are too weird. so what does she pick? a gnome female. hehehe i about giggled myself silly.

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Which means the in-game events are still cannon.

Small bit of content patch is still game content, so, still cannon.

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Wrong, just because it’s not mentioned does not mean it has been retconned out of existence. Chronicles does not delve into minor details, it just covers a big span of time as quick as possible, citing major events. There’s literally dozens of small things that it doesn’t cover, including many dungeons and raids, but those are still canon.

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Can I ask you something? Are you Pinky the gnome with pink hair, that posted a lot of high elven replies from the time before Ion Q&A on High Elves?

hey there. yep. thought you knew that. :smiley:

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Hi Pinky! I’ve missed your posts, hahaha! I though we’ve lost you forever. Leave a ‘hello’ on the discord some time…

here i is! how ya doing pont?
okay. well i came back and finished the void elf grind. complained about it the whole time, too lol been playing some project1999 (everquest emulator), where GASP, i was able to make a high elf. hehe. sadly, their arms are kinda odd. and their pony tails are gigantic triangles. hehe
this is not my char. just showing ya. i mean, that is not a wow quality high elf hehe

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Yea I don’t get why people think the blood elf theme and high elf theme are the same

Some people just don’t want to play a race whos origins are that they were brainwashed into believing outland was Edan and sacrificed everything for their mana addiction and were evil. Only a few Blood Elves have actually been redeemed the rest of the race are a pack of tyrants using mind control on civilians and used the horde to have petty revenge on the alliance for some warlord in the north who had nothing to do with the storm wind alliance

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Chronicles don’t mention every single detail of what has happened. It outlines the important events. The troll uprising of 4.1 in cata was not that important. We caught the issue before it was an actual problem. Zul took the survivors and then we deal with them again in MoP.

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Light cures fel apparently, and the wiki says blood elves eyes will eventually return to their original blue color given enough time. High and Blood elves are the same race, they’re both connected to the Sunwell, and now that connection is shared at an even higher level because of pilgrimage being allowed to the Sunwell. Blood Elves using fel crystals lore-wise may not be happening, it’s Blizzard, and they haven’t re-visited and re-vamped Silvermoon to reflect any of the story/lore changes to the race, so I don’t really consider what’s happening there to be what’s happening currently.

I also saw 2 “High Elf” tagged npc’s with green fel eyes in separate places yesterday. I really don’t think adding High Elves as a separate race to blood elves makes any sense, especially with how they are 1% or less of the Quel’thalas population left, AND so many of them have either married into human families, or undergone the transformation into Void Elf (which you can see happening in the Rift)

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Light doesn’t exactly “cure” fel. Its opposing force is actually arcane. The reason Blood Elves can have golden eyes is because the Sunwell is now made of Light.

High Elves seem to adapt physically to whatever magic they’re consuming. Blue eyes when arcane magic is their diet, green eyes when it’s fel and gold when it’s Light.

To clarify on this, Blood Elf eyes, for players, are green due to simply being around the fel energies used to power Silvermoon. Players and other Azerothian Blood Elves that weren’t part of Kael’s forced in Outland, never siphoned demons directly.

Light has been seen to destroy or counteract fel magic, despite Arcane being its opposite on the chronicle element diagram. We see this when Velen cleanses the fel corruption in the Exodar, and his light shield basically vaporizes demons as they approach.

As of MoP, we know Silvermoon is no longer powered by demon magic via fel crystals, and as of the end of TBC, Blood Elves no longer had to feed magic addiction and thusly no longer mana tap, hence its later removal as a racial in Cata.

So the funny thing is, what little differences the Blood Elves had with High Elves, in tapping mana from creatures, and using fel energies for their buildings, are both gone, lessening the meaningful differences between them even more.

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Just as a point of interest, I believe Blood Elves still have the ability to have green eyes because of the same reason that SMC is still decorated with green crystals: static story.

Canonically there should be far fewer Blood Elves with green eyes than we see in game, which is another example of why in-game representation isn’t indicative of current events always.

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