She’s not a forsaken. She’s a higher form of undead. Forsaken are lesser undead. They rot, she doesn’t, to begin with.
I’m gonna bow out here and go level my Nightborne. It’s been nice talking to you all, sorry if I came across as brusque to anyone. I know we’re all passionate about this and it’s part of why I love Warcraft. Take care!
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Sylvanas is a Banshee possessing her own corpse.
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I’m not going to be convinced that Alleria is a Void Elf while she have High Elven visual traits and doesn’t look like a Void Elf. She also dress herself with tattered ranger clothes in contrast with the sumptuous golden and purple vestments that the Void Elves normally use. She barely have much in common with the race that she leads aside from being a thalassian elf.
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She’s a banshee but not quite. She’s a mix between banshee and dark ranger. She was raised to be one of Arthas’ lieutenants, so she’s way more powerful than each of both.
Then we want to play as the elves that identify themselves as high elves.
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Which is why I said: “The transformation must be what makes one a void elf” meaning that since she can transform back and forth…she is not fully a void elf.
I mean, Forsaken is just the blanket term for undead under the banner of the Horde now that serve Sylvanas. Its not just humans no more.
Forsaken faction is one thing. That includes abominations, leper gnomes, dark rangers, banshees and other sorts of undead. The forsaken type of undead, which you can play as, is more limited, and Sylvanas is not a “forsaken” like that. Just like Alleria is not a void elf you can play as.
Reminder, someone on MMO made this a long time ago and have never seen this since:
i.imgur/com/3zuCYG1.jpg (broke the link, but replace first / with a .)
My point on the matter: I’m not against the idea of making more Void Elves or developing them, i actually want that, but while we don’t have anything to prove that more Void Elves can be made i’m not going to believe on that, neither that Alleria is one since she doesn’t undergo the same ritual.
It feels bad to your character to be part of a race that have like, 12 individuals, and one of your leaders was continuing a research from the biggest traitor of the history of Quel’thalas. Honestly, of all the things i tought to be stupid in the implementation of the Void Elves, Dar’Khan Drathir being involved on it at all was the worst, the dude probably never even researched into the Void ever before they decided that it was convenient for the plot, why they have to use him, just why, it painted the race in a bad image right from the beginning.
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Yea, we know this. She’s above that. But she clearly also invokes the Void to where it changes her own physiology when put into her “void elf” form.
She is one, but just not stuck in the biological mutations that Umbric’s followers are.
This is like saying Greymane isnt a worgen because you cant play as his specific customizations. They are special characters that have specialized traits…if everyone was like them, then whats the point?
That comparison does not apply. He’s a worgen like any other. He’s not special in any way in lore.
She’s a high elf that mastered the void. Her natural form is high elven. Her “void” form is a transformation she’s in control of and can turn off whenever she wants.
That’s completely different from playable void elves, which are mutated always, even outside their void form.
Even if she calls herself a void elf (she never did, BTW), she’s not one like the others.
From Chronicles Vol. 3, page 158:
Gods of Zul’Aman
As the Horde and the Alliance were waging war on Illidan Stormrage’s forces, Warlord Zul’jin and his Amani trolls prepared to march on Quel’Thelas. They were bitter enemies of the blood elves, and they had been waiting for the perfect opportunity to launch a full-out assault. With most of Quel’Thalas’s soldiers occupied on Outland, the opportunity was now.
Zul’jin was a cunning leader, and his attack was motivated by hatred of Quel’Thalas as well as strategic reasons. The blood elves had recently joined the Horde, which had granted them more power and resources. Zul’jin believed Quel’Thalas would inevitably convince its new allies to strike at the Amani empire.
Within the Amani capital, Zul’Aman, troll priests preformed rituals to harness the power of their loa. These mighty creatures roamed the city in the form of giant beasts. Their energies suffused the troll soldiers, transforming t hem into the living embodiments of the loa.
The Horde was desperate not to fight a war on two fronts–Outland and Quel’Thalas. The faction’s mightiest champions volunteered to storm Zul’Aman. they did not have the strength to face the trolls’ army directly, but they had no need to. The Horde’s strike force cut off the serpent’s head, killing Zul’jin and his priests before their rampage in Quel’thalas could even begin.
NO but made special in the game itself. Its like why he’s the only worgen who is pure white. Its why Sylvanas is the only elf in the Forsaken outside her guard. Its why Alleria is the only void elf that can transform back into her quel’dorei form.
Hence why I said the transformation is a vold elven form, making her somewhat void elf.
Yes they are void elves who cannot transform back to their other form due to biological manipulations.
Even in the “A Thousand Years of War”, it describes her as “infected with void”.
Just because the option is off-limits to players doesn’t mean it’s special. Male night elf players can’t have silver eyes, despite it being the standard for the race. Talk about stupid in-game limitations.
That’s completely different from saying Sylvanas is a forsaken just like the others, or Alleria is a void elf like the others. I can’t even understand why are you arguing against the obvious.
“Somewhat void elf” does not equal void elf.
Wrong. They also have both a normal and void form, but the normal one is mutated. Alleria’s is not.
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All I said is that she was partially. She is infected by the void from what is in “A Thousand Years of War”, her physiology has changed to accompany the void when she needs it (her void form which in itself is a super powered verison of a RACIAL), and that she can swap between that form and her normal form when necessary.
And this group of 12 individuals was a large enough population to qualify as an Allied Race.
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Wrong Zul’aman. That is the raid. The event with Vereesa is the cata era dungeon.
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No mention of an additional event takes place in Chronicles and it goes past Cataclysm, meaning that the 5 man dungeon is literally just a game-ism to give us a small bit of content patch and is of incredibly dubious if not throw away canon since Chronicles sets down what actually happened.
Chronicles changes a good number of raids/events that were done from both sides in game but are now canon to have been done by either or and NOT both.
Hell, if I remember correctly…the Silver Covenant is mentioned only like…once or twice (at max) in any of the books.
I want to see a Silvermoon civil war where the Farstriders leave and join the Alliance, taking all hunters with them. The Blood Knights remain and keep the paladins to themselves.
When they make the warfront for it, it will be a good excuse to update the zones for flying as well.
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