The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

Regarding this, I think Light in general can “cure” most anything in the way that it can destroy most anything. And Velen is arguably one of the most powerful light-users in lore, if not the most powerful. In regards to Blood Elves’ eyes, the Light of the Sunwell didn’t cure their green eyes since it’s verified that they would’ve faded anyway.

Yeah, their eye color pretty much corresponds to that of the sunwell. It’s not about cleansing anything. I also think there is a strong divergence in the magical addiction between high and blood elves. It is possible, the blood elves do indeed have biological differences from regular high elves as shown by the strength of the glow in their eyes.

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I see no evidence eye color makes them biologically different.

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I wasn’t talking about color.

I would like to point out that in all honesty, instead of Lightforged Draenai, you should have gotten Broken as an allied race. Would have added some much needed flavor to the Alliance blandness.

Interesting but since sources state they’re biologically the same, I would rather pass it off as a graphical irregularity. Maybe they wanted player models to look cool but didn’t need to bother with the same thing on NPCs.

at this point the differences that split them isn’t what keeps them apart at this point. Blood elves basically function as a fascist regime. The high elves of the alliance simply don’t agree with that ideology. They are divided among themselves in the alliance as is.

aye. I think the reason we didn’t get broken is because they hadn’t already made a female model for them. So insteal we got LF draenei. LF should have been something for all races as an optional questline to become lightforged.

Void elves I think blizzard legitimately thought high elves were boring so they tried to make them cool but completely missed what the community actually likes about high elves. We want their story and culture and background. They can easily make customization around that. The good thing is that they seemed to quickly realize their mistake so they don’t have void elves taking the place of high elves. Void elves very much do their own role instead of doing what high elves typically did.

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There is no evidence this fascism still exists today, as Silvermoon has been barely touched since TBC aside from aome lazy Kael to Lor’themar replacements in text.

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There’s no evidence that things changed either, so we go with what we know.

And remember that the political model didn’t change. Conflict may have diminished, but a fascist nation in peace is still a fascist nation.

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The speculative argument over Blood Elves political affiliation is probably better served in a different thread.

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Anyone want to take bets on how long it’ll take for that thread to get locked?

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As fast as race/ethnicity 101 with Wanobi?

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They likely meant there is no major biological difference that would categorize them as a different race. The potental for magic addiction among blood elves is a trait that is high in the blood elf population though. Those who were able to overcome it were more likely to split off among high elf groups.

Mmm, I respect your curiosity and creativity but I don’t particularly see anything that alludes to that. Interesting though!

All elves have the potential for magic addiction, and seemingly, only elves. Night Elves, Naga, High/Blood Elves and Nightborne all share the capacittly or directly suffer from magical addiction. Strangely, their troll cousins do not.

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Yes. Blood elves are extremely vulnerable to it.

They are still controlled and ruled by the same regime. Lor’themar led them in TBH and he and his same council still leads it. Nothing has changed.

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There’s evidence it has changed. The fascist state was when Kael’thas was still in power, a self proclaimed Sun King. He sent Rommath back with orders to teach the commonfolk (us as players) only the bare minimum of mana tapping to sustain us, and to power Silvermoon by trapped demonic energy.

Seeing as Kael was overthrown, the Sunwell restored, Silvermoon canonically no longer powered by fel crystals (per Rommath, “What’s in the Box?” Quest in MoP), and Lor’thamar taking only the title Regent Lord and specifying that Silvermoon won’t have another King is pretty much all direct evidence that not only has the ruling party changed but so has the methodology.

To think Silvermoon as still maintaining a fascist state would be silly. Liadrin doesn’t come off as a general maintaining martial law, nor do we see evidence that the Blood Elves hold some tight yoke on their people as Kael once did through the Magisters. Silvermoon is as relevant as Wrath Dalaran is to present day, that is to say, not at all.

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Not necessarily. Political alignments has been a strong case for the differences between blood elves and high elves. Talking about in game politics is not against ToS. We are allowed to relate the governments of the nations in game to real life political categories.

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