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4953

It looks amazing!

But it is a bit too much like Silvermoon-ish.

Spellbreaker armor has been retconned to be Silvermoon Royal Guard armor.

They could have the Celtic look they used to have in Warcraft 2 that can fit both rangers and warriors.

Add some fancy buckles and it could work for mages.

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4955

Wasn’t the Celtic Look/Theme was already taken by the Wildhammer Dwarves? Don’t get me wrong. I love the Celtic Theme through it would be kind of same if the High Elves had the Celtic Look and then We’re have Celtic Races of Dwarves and Elves.

4956

They are actually based more off Scottish Highlanders.

They have the underground houses and the like.

But the scottish did come from celtic groups. So there are similarities.

When I say keltic I mean the more central european ones.

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4957

The thing is, no everyone wants exactly the same- Some want High Elves to be playable, and some people want the story lore of High Elves to move forward. And those things aren’t necessarily the same, even when there is a major overlap.

Like, I am okay if High Elves end up dying out as a “race” but living through their offspring, I am also okay with many HE’s joining the VE, because at the end of the day, continuing the narrative/story of High Elves is more important than just playable High Elves, who are just one way of how the HE story can continue.

That’s, for example, I personally don’t like when people say “We could get AU High Elves” cause then they are divorced of any of the story and lore I actually want, things that I can see High Elves and Voided High Elves actually carrying forward -That’s why personally I would have been okay with Void Elves if they had been made out of High Elves-

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4958

Through it would be better for High Elves to be an actually playable allied race that has more lore into them and development than just wiping them out or having them randomly join the Void. There’s more Power Sources than Void and Light. There’s Arcane for example why not focus on the Pure Magic than other 3. Then you’ll get Silver Elves. But if the High Elf continues with their offspring AKA Half Elves. Then that wouldn’t be too bad at all.

I mean its bad enough I keep hearing that High Elves should be wiped out as a race to reject people anything original on the Alliance side since all they have is same dull blue color scheme of Elves that has been done so many times that is unoriginal and not interesting anymore. Even having them join the Void Elves because again. Why fix a random forced lore race where they are already uninteresting. Only interesting Void Race is the Ethereals and atleast they were bit more original before Void Elves were even a thing.

I personally would like High Elves to go into fresher directions than other 2 I just mentioned. Other 3 Directions like Half Elves, AU High Elves or just being a Actual Race sounds bit more interesting than giving two fingers to the Alliance Fans that actual cared about High Elves.

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I mean adding High Elves to the Void Elves tbh only adds to the later. They get the lore and background. It’s basically adding more Allerias to their ranks. It adds to the Void Elves by using High Elven background and motivations -specially if they came from the Silver Covenant- IMO I think that’s better than nothing. Void Elves already exist, and TBH I’d rather have them be improved, and I think adding High Elves to their ranks would.

Half-Elves to me are the scenario with the most potential, cause it’s literally about the new generation of a people being intermingled, Half Elves as the Heirs of the Alliance High Elves and their ideology just seems like a neat concept, the Silver Covenant (of Human and Elves) I just really like conceptually as it is a natural end point for the High Elf narrative of what happens when you choose friendship over country and become exiles in human lands.

And AU High Elves might me by most disliked option because that’s literally just the aesthetic, with all the reasons I want High Elves -their lore and history- removed. Like even if they are AU in the way they are a group of High Elves that refused to leave their Alliance after the second War then I’d be “what new are they bringing” cause the number game was already busted with Void Elves.

So High Elves which only thing is that they have the aesthetic and none of the lore are really not my cup of tea.

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4960

And yet another main difference that set Quel’dorei apart from their Sin’dorei kin is opposite ideology, when facing disaster and has to make a choice these still called Quel’dorei refuse to abandon or even declare war on former ally, which is why they got exiled and then become another political faction in Alliance.

Just like what you say “good/bad power is only depending on how to use it”, but consider it more deeply, if SC decide that their ally and everything they fighting for is more important than old creed and finally decide to practice void in order to protect their ‘family’ which would be a magnificent development on lore and I would be fully support void elf already.

But the truth is current void elf have no lore background, no population figures, their exile have very less or almost no political reason, they loyalty to the Alliance are fully based on their self-claim: we stand with Alliance because we approve your creed.

And Umbric himself, well, only Alleria come to find them but not he straightly go to Alliance after exiled. and the action he take already make this character way more far than the Thalassian elf that Alliance want for so long,(firmness, loyal, Anti-nationalist) even from objective pov I think.

So you see lol, there are massive way of deals that Blizzard could offer to Alliance, but by mistake or on purpose, they avoid them all:

High elf Thalassian model —X
Anti-collectivist ideology(Anti-Nationalist ideology) —X
A another page of Alliance high elf lore —X
Their own lore background —X
Their loyalty to Alliance —questionable
Their loyalty to Quel’thalas —XIt is proved that if they come close to the Sunwell would cause massive carnival and all Thalassian has to being pushed to find a new Arcan’dor

It is my list, either one or two of them checked, then deal
but for this, no deal, and I really worrying about what gonna happen on such a “race from void(nothing)” in future.:confused:

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4961

But my heart
 it can’t take another heart break, did you consider that
:pleading_face::pleading_face:

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4962

Well, if they turn High Elves into Void Elves this would mean no High Elves as a Allied Race in the end, that’s a primary reason why i opose that, anything aside is secondary.

Second, i have a question, what makes the High Elves anti-nationalist? They have no problem with Quel’thalas itself, many of them are native from there, and either got exiled or fled during the Second (Allerian Stronghold) and Third War (Theramore and part of Dalaran and Stormwind). Alleria, Varessa and Umbric wants Quel’thalas to be part of the Alliance, and the problem isn’t Quel’thalas or the Blood Elves themselves, the problem is their alignment with the Horde, if this wasnt the case, the rift between them wouldn’t be so large.

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4963

Some Horde players are really into the idea of killing all of the High Elves, little they know that turning them into Half Elves or Void Elves is way more efficient to erase them as a race.

I joined the debate and gave my support here because i want to have them as a playable race, with racials, recruiting questline, racial mount, tabard, heritage armor, more screen time, develpment and attention. But now, i’m sorry but i’m feeling a bit disapointed, it would be heartbreaking for me and many others to get another “compromise” from blizzard instead of the long asked High Elves, i know the chances are little but i’m not losing anything by believing.

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4964

The Antis pretty much have no respect for Alliance Players, Quel’dorei Lore, and rest of the Warcraft Franchise in general of having a sick twisted agenda of killing off a race to reject people anything original for the Alliance.

Only Elves we got on the Alliance is same version of Dark Elves. One is Void and other is Drow with Blue/Purple Color Skins. Its getting Dull, generic and unoriginal at this point on the Alliance faction. Same can be said for Nightborne since they’re also blueberries too. When you make the same Theme of Elves instead of following the others like Snow Elves, Pure High Elves, Wood Elves, and Half Elves. It gets very old and dull very fast. Pre patch of BFA proves that with Nightborne and Void Elves now Night Elves with the Black Blue Eyes.

I hope for other 3 options of playable High Elves than the other 2 like killing off or making them into forced dull blue skin elf race like Void Elves because there’s nothing original for elves in terms of theme and skin color at this point in wow. Where’s the Pure Pale White Elves and Black/Brown Elves on the Alliance now in days?

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4965

Yeah there aren’t large amounts of void elves or the night warriors either, the Darkspear are one small tribe based out of a small island, the orcs at one point weren’t considered prominent either. There is no way in hell there could be enough pandaren for both factions living on that small island, not only that a lot of the Wandering Isle pandaren stayed behind, the amount of pandaren needed to exist on that island would require them to pack in that island elbow to elbow with pandaren before the factions rolled in and recruited some.

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4966

Numbers don’t matter. They don’t have their own factions.

The recruitment questline would basically be traveling across azeroth and outland asking half elves to fight for the Alliance and making them a group that can be recruited.

Which would be pretty dang weird and creepy tbh.

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4967

How is that creepy?

4968

I mean a united quel’dorei faction that has the recruitment quests be just that is what many of us see as ideal. It means we take all of the different aspects of the high elf groups and make them 1. Just like the mag’har cover all of the tribes.

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4969

We will get High Elves when Ion isn’t Game Director anymore.

Every one of the flimsy reasons he has given are immediately nullified by the addition of Void Elves and Nightborne for the Alliance and Horde respectively.

Besides that, there’s far too much money in it for Blizzard to hold out forever.

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4970

I agree with this, but it’s different uniting groups then random individuals that have nothing to do with each other.

Half Elves exist as isolated incidents though. They don’t have their own faction. They would have to come as part of another.

Because you’re going from house to house and forming an army of people because they are half breeds.

Wow doesn’t need any of that


4971

Yeah, what I’ve listed above is before Void Elf been introduce what would be considering as compromise ‘from my pov’

And as you can see none of them hit the target and thus this is the reason why we are here today fight for at least a customization option of high elf isn’t it? lol

You do notice that I add one 'They loyalty to Quel’thalas as one of high elf needed creed to the list don’t you?
You need to understand that Anti-Nationalist never means people don’t like their motherland, they also love their country but would consider ‘its people’ more important than nation symbol itself, for Nationalism would approve to “remove unstable factors in our rank and suppress these minority who don’t obey Totalitarian order”, the Individualists would not, and would see all people under the same banner as equal.
The Blood elf sanctified their Quel’thalas as a supreme and would use any mean to protect it, including join force with former enemy, declare war on former Ally and conduct totalitarian act in order to suppress/exile all who disagree with the decision, and it is one of the reason for political opposition faction High elf emerged, so you see lol, High elf under this lore background are definitely the people who unyielding to Collectivist/Totalitarian/Nationalist government, the high elf are individualists who considering blood elf as outrage, as totalitarian butchers who raise the knife to their own kind; and individualism is the basement of modern western democracy if I didn’t remember it wrong? lolololol

So you see the whole of my argument from the start to the last didn’t you?

We could see Blood elf using Totalitarian act in order to survive as ‘moral grey’ since it might be a ‘’must do‘’ under giving circumstance.

But if the reason Blizzard dev. don’t want to add High elf is in fact their really approve Blood elf’s act and considering Quel’dorei (political) as wrong.

I suggest Blizzard should move their base to DPRK North korea immediately, they seems need this of a company more than ever :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

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4972

While you are here, I have been meaning to ask a question.

Has the chinese playerbase come up with any ideas on how to make High Elves stand out as their own race?

What suggestions have they come up with?

4973

We’re actually awaiting for you guys to decide brothers and sisters lol
When you said ‘we want high elf’
We got the message on first minute and discussed it.
When you said ‘a high elf customization would be one of acceptable compromise’
We received the message and discussed it.

But all in all our discussion point are almost the same as you:

“To add some tattoos and lay line on model would already made them identical enough, different hair style? why don’t add them?”
“The only reason Blizzard don’t add High elf is because of Blizzard is horde’s papa, not some ‘identical’ thing”

etc


So you see people would not always thinking differently, why? maybe because we are all human? lol

but we also know that we are just some forums located on far and mysterious eastern, our mind won’t always delivery to here, but we are here stand with you on the case, please understand this.

Gear up high elfs !
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