The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

They had a weird idea and figured they could quell the need for High Elves, Broken, and Ethereals all in one go.

It didn’t work.

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Something I’ve been doing:

I have begun to exclusively refer to Alliance High Elves as ‘Quel’dorei’ and Horde High Elves as ‘Sin’dorei’ and the total High Elf collective as ‘Thalassian’.

It’s undeniable that both the Sin’dorei and Quel’dori are High Elves, or Thalassian, but I think we can take the teeth out of the “Blood Elves are High Elves” argument if they’re only referred to as ‘Quel’dorei’.

I think Void Elves are the result of Blizzard’s inability to resist putting their own ‘spin’ on something Players have often requested.

Players wanted housing, we got Garrisons.

Players wanted to sail on ships, we got the ship yard.

Players wanted brown orcs, we got timey-wimey orcs.

Void Elves, I think, are the result of that same misunderstanding. Especially when they could easily have been former Quel’dorei instead of Sin’dorei.

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Honestly, i prefer the void elves to be former sin’dorei than quel’dorei. I find the lore of being rejected and exiled from silvermoon and finding some kind of redemption in the views that the Alliance have on them for being former blood elves to be way more interesting than just quel’dorei dabing in void powers for whatever reasons, it have potential to grow. I can’t find a reasonable motivation to the High Elves to use shadow in first place, they are even suspicious of any kind of dark energies, this would be very uncharacteristic from them.

Not to mention that merging void elves and high elves would take away unique traits and characteristics that define one group and the other, prejudicing the potential development that the 2 races could have.

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People have to stop using the “blurring lines” argument. Just because Ion used that phrase, doesn’t mean it makes sense. Think of it like “democrat vs. Republican” These are line of political ideology, but still defined enough to be distinct. You can have Silver Covenant Quel’Dorei and you can have Standard Horde BE Sin’Dorei, and you know they are different. The fact that your game will not let you talk to them, and they are flagged “red” if they are the enemy wholesale prevents you from not realizing these guys are not your friends.

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Making the Void Elves former High Elves would have eliminated the need to keep them as separate groups. When I say they should’ve been former HIgh Elves, I mean all of the former High Elves.

Wait, did Ion used “blur the lines” as a argument? Oh no, did i just got Ioned? God i feel disgusted to use a line that this thing created, sorry for that.

Anyway , i was talking about Void elves and High Elves. I all care is that both groups are made distinct and unique enough to be set apart from each other, i don’t want them merged. If blizzard made void elves out of high elves, it would mean NO High Elves at all, and my hope would be completely lost. This is why i prefer Void Elves being Silvermoon Exiles rather than Alliance High Elves.

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At least something interesting would’ve happened and the story would’ve actually done something with them.

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That’s a bit questionable. The High Elves did received attention and lore development in multiple expansions, all of this without blizzard radically changing them.

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A bit. They’ve had a consistent, albeit small presence since Wrath and didn’t really get to do anything noteworthy until MOP, where the Purge of Dalaran and their roles in the Isle of Thunder really gave them something to do. The Quel’dorei haven’t been given half the attention the Sin’dorei have, though. Turning them into the Void Elves would’ve been a major new chapter for them.

Well, they do say there’s no limit to how many allied races they could add. They said they implemented Allied races to bolster the lacking customization options ingame. I mean, they did already erode any lines that mattered by giving the alliance the blood elven models with the exception of skin tones, hair and eye color. At this point they’re just being superficial and not owning up to their mistakes.

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You know what bothers me? How come they still call it Quel’thalas? How come they don’t call it Sin’thalas now?

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:thinking:

Now that you mention it, it shoudn’t even have the “thalas” part, since they are not a kingdom anymore.

But I say it’s for tradition. Same way Silvermoon’s name is an allusion of their earlier night elf origins, but never got changed even when they stopped worshipping Elune.

That’s a Great Name. Sin’thalas. Better than Quel’thalas since the Blood Elves are no longer High Elves.

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Void Elves need a floating city of Ren’thalas in Telogrus that’s a blending of Dalaran, Silvermoon, and Void Elf aesthetics :stuck_out_tongue:

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It’s a similar situation with SILVERmoon city

Silver honoring their high elf ancestry. (Hence why the SILVER covenant is composed of high elves)
Moon honoring their night elf ancestry.

If they were to modernise it, it would probably be Bloodsun city or something.

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As a matter of fact, from lore perspective your argument is exactly what we’re worrying about, the whole story of void elf is actually all on ‘how wrong they is to think they can master a kind of power out of their capacity’ and ‘how correct the Silvermoon is to exile them.’

Lets compare the lore background:
High Elf: They refuse to join their political opposition faction and using fel magic/join force with FSK/horde to survive, thus been considering as a ‘potential threat’ and exiled.

Void Elf: They possess the power that used to been used by greatest traitor of Quel’thalas, and proved to become an ‘actual threat’ to blood elf controlled Quel’thalas, then exiled.

Yeah, if you compare the two, I think people would easily be guided to that “these Thalassian who joined Alliance are traitors who only care about their own power” rather than political opposition.

So question is, is this only a mistake that we strongly want to it to be? or it is really some die-hard dev. putting their personal feeling into the game and mocking Alliance with every aspect of means?

On the other hand in my personal pov, after all the war and all the lost I think till the end of legion war Vereesa already have enough reason to grasp void power since she and her SC are really a weak power compare to their horde kin and she would willing to take the risk in order to take advantage in the war, and to protect her ally from destructive power of Sylvanas.

Yeah, High elf have the reason to do this, the only problem whether Blizzard willing to make High elf such a group full of remark and firmness on lore then offer a platform for Ally player to fight their kins at equal stage.

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Bloodsun sounds like some edgy band

Perfect for BE then!

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High elves are not a thing. Blood elf heritage armor even points out that there are more or less no more high elves. Get over it. Blizzard isn’t going to make void elves, an already copy-paste of blood elves with a plethora more aesthetics than ANOTHER copy paste of blood elves with the ONLY difference being blue eyes…for the last time, get over it.

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