That would be nice. The Horde could get a story where they aren’t villains for a change.
oh yes. Personally I want the tables flipped. Have the alliance strike out with no prior reasoning. Have them be the aggressors instead of only ever responding to what the horde does.
Unfortunately, the Alliance is going to have reason to be the hostile force for the rest of Warcraft history after Teldrassil, I imagine.
as if they haven’t since the start of WoW. Personally the one thing I love about bfa is the alliance is actually taking advantage of the full on war to take back what was lost over the years.
I think this ship has sailed with Nightborne and Void Elves.
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Arguably.
Among some of the well known Allied Race requests right now we have High Elves as well as San’layn, each of which provides a requested race to each faction with a requested aesthetic that has sorely been missing from said faction. From the San’layn, players at last have an outlet to play their Dark Ranger concepts, as well as a more Vampiric race. From the High Elves, players would finally have a staple race of the Alliance which has featured in nearly every expansion to some degree.
There’s still room for High Elves in my opinion. I wouldn’t hope for them in BFA. We could always be surprised, I suppose, but it still seems like a bit of a long-shot considering how much of the Expansion has been planned out. We’ve seen previews of 8.2. After that we have 8.3 and if BFA follows the same setup as past expansions, after 8.3 (or 8.3.5), we’re going to 9.0.
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I dont care about the when really.
I care about them putting the effort in.
This is looking just at the surface.
First off, high elves don’t have magisters. A magister is not just a mage, it’s one of the elite magi of Silvermoon, kind of their own kirin tor. The magisters regulate magic in Quel’thalas. High elves, as exiles and outcasts, have no magisters, only mages.
(And yeah, Umbric is not a true magister. He’s a guy holding on to a former title.)
Also, rangers have lost a lot of prestige in Quel’thalas. The Farstriders were once the primary fighting force of the nation, but their role has been diminished with the rise of the Blood Knights. The farstriders are the most “high elven” of the blood elves, while Blood knights and spellbreakers are way more iconic to blood elves than rangers. Meanwhile, most high elf leaders and areas are former Farstriders.
When designing things like the aesthetics of an race, such details matter.
Because customization options represent the average culture of a race. A blood elf can have a tatoo, sure, but blood elves in general won’t have one, so the customization options are there to show this.
If high elves get different customization options, then it means their culture has moved away from the blood elves’. It’s simple as that.
That’s them not understanding their own race’s themes. In essence, they want to be unique, and all ideas to make high elves different are frowned upon and clamored to belong to them.
It’s like when Horde players complain they get tribal-like raw buildings while the Alliance gets castles. “Oh, we want better cities”. Well, you chose the tribal faction. Blood elves are not the main race of the Horde, orcs and trolls are. Blood elves were tackled on the Horde for reasons outside lore.
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personally I believe bfa will go to 8.4.
The reason being is we will likely deal both with n’zoth and finish the faction war in 2 separate patches after azshara in 8.2.
The only way I don’t see this happening is if they plan to continue the faction war into the next expansion. Quite simply it is too built up to be a sudden truce. We have saurfang starting a rebellion as a plotline and neither the horde nor alliance seem to want to back down.
I’m leaning towards agreeing with you.
8.0 and 8.1 are all setups for whatever comes next in the faction war, and I can’t see it ending in a single patch 8.3, as 8.2 has nothing (known so far) to do with the faction war.
So, either there will be more patches (unlikely) or the faction war is not ending this expansion (I think this is more likely).
They actually do.
Magister Lyanis
Magister Yalis
Magistrix Sanal
I agree completely and this is something the High Elves do better bring forth when they’re frequently implemented in content. We see a lot of High Elven Rangers.
I’ve acknowledged this. Reasons can be invented as to why Blood Elves wouldn’t have High Elven customization. I mean, for one thing, I imagine most would consider it to be in poor taste or borderline unpatriotic to sport anything the High Elves would. Most Blood Elves seem to view High Elves as traitors, after all.
Again, I don’t disagree, but that is their viewpoint and to be fair there is a degree of logic in it. Why can’t Blood Elves have Tattoos? Plenty of races do. They could have tattoos that are different from High Elves easily enough. Different colors, different symbols, etc… It’d certainly make High Elves more unique and different to have Tattoos and Blood Elves to not have them, but that doesn’t really address the point that there is no logical reason for Blood Elves to abstain from tattoos.
We’ve seen arguments already just from Void Elves. Male Void Elf facial hair has been a sticking point for players of Blood Elves who want more than the small amount of facial hair they currently have. There really isn’t a solid reason a Blood Elf couldn’t grow their facial hair a bit more either.
Same case as Umbric’s: they are holding on to former titles.
High Elf Shamans, if they are ever brought to Alliances, first, I’d never quit the game, cause that’s the race/class combo I’ve wanted forever!
Second, when will people realise High Elves like it or not will benifit the Alliance!, there is literally zero negative reasons besides preference of player choice…
+1 Showing my support!
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High Elf Shamans would indeed be an interesting addition. As has been outlined before, they do have a relationship with the Wildhammer Dwarves, and more than that, if the Sunwell was lost or the High Elves were somehow cut off from it, it would be interesting to see them go in the opposite direction to seek a cure for it. Shamanism/Druidism seems like it could be a pretty interesting method.
It’s just a matter of whether or not Blizzard wants to go that route with High Elves. We know the Quel’Danil High Elves in the Hinterlands don’t use magic as per one of the comics, but I don’t think it’s entirely reasonable to expect the writers to be aware of that.
I think shaman might work with the high elven friendship between them and the wildhammer. Druids could also be interesting.
They should definitely have shaman. It would make total sense that to help cope with the loss of the sunwell they turned to the elements with the help of the wildhammer.
as for druids, personally I don’t like the idea of high elf nor blood elf druids. Wildhammer should get druids though as there has been some mentions of druid like wildhammer in vague parts of the lore. No shapeshifting but definitely in tune with nature that is different than from the elements.
As I have said about this before, while I like the brainstorming, at the end of the day it’s really up to Blizzard, and all we can do is make the case that High Elves can be sufficiently made different from Blood Elves.
TBH I think that’s what “headcanons” bring to the conversation; possibilities of how to accomplish that, and personally I do very much like the shaman idea through the Highvale.
So I guess this post is more of a disclaimer for those who like to claim at this point we are only running on headcanons and wishful thinking and entitlement, the point of such ideas is not to simply show a “wish list” of what we want, but to show ideas of how HE can be made sufficiently different so they can become their own thing while moving forward the story we’d like to see playable.
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To add to that.
There are differences between Headcanons and Suggestions.
For example, when someone is making a suggestion for a class like Druids or Shaman it is not the same thing as stating there are High Elf Druids and Shaman in the lore.
To call a suggestion a Headcanon is an attempt to deny discussion.
Also a disclaimer.
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Exactly! thank’s for putting it that way. A suggestion or an idea is not the same than a “headcanon”. They are not dissimilar, but let’s be real, the later is very much used with negative connotations, even when the only practical difference is presentation rather than content.
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exactly. Headcanon would mean they believe this to already exist. It is a real thing that is already there in their mind. a Suggestion is just an idea put forward to see how people respond to it and if it will take off.
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