Show me… Last time you made a declarative statement like that, it was wrong.
Voss is literally the one who goes to Calia for help lol.
You know what, don’t show me anything… you don’t address even half of the points I make. You made no comment of Baine or Thrall… You are just derailing things.
Firstly, Blizzard has outright lied to us before. Secondly, this question is about her Joining the Horde… Not a question about her leading the Forsaken, or a sect of Forsaken people.
the forsaken is the horde, you asked me to give you proof I gave you proof. but of course now we go with the blizzard lies all the time defense will if blizzard lies all the time, then stormwind imperialism is a lie too, we cant trust blizzard.
Not necessarily. Blood Elves are Horde, Void Elves, as a sect of Blood Elf People, are not.
You have not.
You have not addressed any of my other points. You do what you always do, instead of attacking the argument, you latch onto one element of evidence given, ignoring everything else, bogging down the conversation in needless details and derailing the entire thread.
What I said before still stands and you have yet to challenge it.
The high king is elected, we dont know how anduin became high king.
stormwind colors is the colors of the alliance, always has been, all the races used them forever, just like the horde use orc colors.
Tyrande agreed with it, aszhara was given to the horde so there would never be another war over reasources cause they live in a desert again.
stormwind put ahead human interest in your mind, the whole war was over teld, humans gainned nothing out of it, they didnt get lorderan. We see humans speak about getting revenge for teld, from shaw to wrymbane to anduin who by the way thinks its his mistake alone, or did you forget the cinematic in lorderan.
nelves dont lose anything but teld, they retake darkshore, and the status of ashenvale is unknown, but probably nelf controlled since not even nelf characters say anything about it. Stromgarde and Kul tiras arent gains lol they are there own kingdoms, and lordaeron has voss as a leader. Cause we see the horde council and guess what calia isnt there.
btw if all the horde is human puppets and all the alliance is human puppets. then why does this matter? EVeryone owns everything.
No it isn’t… It was a series of Trials Varian had to perform. We have not seen such trials performed by Anduin, thus we are left to assume that the title is subject to the human tradition of hereditary Monarchy.
Like vassals would to their dominate state, yes.
Stromgarde, Kul Tiras, and Horde puppet rulers.
And their people, and the blessings of the Dragonflights. They retaking their land is also arguable. Yes, most likely the case, but not yet confirmed. You assume that to be the case, but require explicit word from Blizzard that the Alliance is imperial? Bias much?
Thank you, that is my point.
read wolfheart
I have, go do Trials of the High King.
he is already the high king there Malfurion makes him the high king in wolfheart
No he isn’t… He needed to complete the trial… also stop bogging things down in needless details, this is what is important.
see I dont do headcanon, so I dont assume anything about the story.
You assume night elves have reclaimed all their land, even though no one has said so.
Thats just a theory, I just think its likely they did since tyrande doesnt seem to be upset about land
And I think Stormwind and the Alliance is imperialist because that’s what it looks like.
The difference? Blizzard doesn’t have to say the Alliance is imperialist for me to believe that. Because how the Alliance functions, the relationship it has with non-humans IS imperial. It might not have been Blizzard’s intention, but it is regardless how they have incidentally told the story.
but we know they arent thats the thing lol if they where imperialist genn and tyrande wouldnt be able to do what they did
The role is not about faction-wide political control,[4] but something related to military control similar to Anduin Lothar’s former position as Supreme Allied Commander.[[5]]( The High King only has control over the forces given to him, and leaders who don’t like his calls can choose not to commit their forces
That doesn’t prove anything.
Again, this is how we have seen the Alliance function:
Blizzard can say Elwynn Forest doesn’t have green grass for all I care.
word of god is the word god.
Show me where Blizzard has explicitly said the Alliance doesn’t act like an imperialist regime serving the interests of Stormwind, and I will give it to you. I will also show you a liar.
When stormwind entered a war that broke its army for the elves