The times they are a changin...regarding Duel Tournaments for cash prizes in WoW

I dunno, is he happily unemployed by Blizzard or is he a disgruntled ex employee?

There’s SEVERAL people whom I listen to. Jeff Kaplan is someone whom I’ve linked to more than once, and who I don’t need to introduce - he designed most of the quests in WoW because of his experience with Everquest. John Staats, the 3D designer of WoW who brought Warcraft from the 2D world to 3D for the MMO. Mike Morhaime, Rob Pardo, Pat Nagle, etc. etc. etc. There are a lot of people who have a lot of different view points.

What we then have to do is also balance that against what Blizzard has actually done. And Blizzard has stepped in in several well known cases, even when people when it made people unhappy.

You don’t know that they did it that way.
It was a private tournament…no disclosure whatsoever.

except there was someone STREAMING it and 150k people watched and so…

Blizzard decided they were due for special treatment.

Because thats how its going to be. Streamers are toxic - but popular - and thats all blizz seems to care about these days.

Even a simple elegant solution of ONE no-stream pvp server so their crappy favoritism doesnt affect the rest of us is apparently beyond them.

I fully expect Blizzard to start porting people who put their giant mounts in from the Christmas presents/NPCs/et al.

Though at least they started putting dismount auras around some of them,

lol… so many butt hurt people on here… I bet if you add them all together they dont even equal to .01% of the population.

hence the death by 1000 cuts analogy that I’ve repeated multiple times - the road to hell is paved with good intentions but look at what retail WoW has become and there is your answer…

You clowns are way more toxic than streamers lmao. All you do is sit here and whinge about people all day long; at least they’re playing the game, getting people engaged, and organizing fun events for people to participate in.

Y’all only exist to talk poorly about people

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ORLY?

https://web.archive.org/web/20160306063330/http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/66225-theloras-retribution-guide/

Started by theloras , Dec 18 2013 12:39 AM

what exactly have you done for the Vanilla playerbase or the cause to bring about Classic?

Yes I also watched the video earlier.

“We think we did but now we don’t” ??

why are you linking me a guide you wrote 6 years ago? were you even in the quote chain I replied to?

For a private server no less… We all know how close to classic private servers are… NOT!

Good job.

because you’re calling us more toxic than the streamers lol - also kinda hard to “play the game” without a beta invite when the streamers got prio access even though I’ve literally been theory crafting this stuff going all the way back to lol feenix

If you hate us so much, why are you SO OPPOSED to a single server where streaming is not permitted? I think we both know why - it will be the most populated server. you may enjoy watching them, but I submit most people dont want to PLAY THE GAME with them.

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It is up to you if you to determine if you fall under the category of someone who sits here all day whinging about streamers. if you do not do that, then why would you think I am attempting to describe you? i did not call you out by name.

that is absurd. most people do not care if they play on the same server as a streamer because most people won’t even notice. the only people that will notice are people that seek them out. i play on Illidan and I do not notice a single one of the famous streamers on that server.

there is no way blizzard can, nor should they ever try to, force streamers onto a separate server. “streamers” are WoW players too, and you are generalizing thousands of players because you have built up a personal grudge against a few.

and what pray tell led to Classic becoming a reality in the first place?

The answer is that Blizzard’s policies haven’t changed much in 15 years. Their design may have, but the policies of Blizzards TOS has not moved.

Again, read above, the TOS explanations in detail.

Compare to, say, the Class protests in Vanilla.

https://www.engadget.com/2014/10/08/wow-archivist-class-protests-and-the-million-gnome-march/?guccounter=1

A GM dispersed the group, and banned offenders, warranted or not, because it was causing lag and disrupting the server.

Here is a thread describing a PVP raid from just last year, same issue: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769527245 - A GM forcibly made a city raid disperse for the sake of server stability.

It would not have mattered if it was on stream or not, if Blizzard had eyes on it, they would take action, even if the players themselves were not happy with it.

And there’s the Tournament of Ages, an RP-PvP event which included dueling, just like this tournament. There were no big streamers, yet Blizzard stepped in all the same when trolls attempted to disrupt the event.

https://thenerdstemplar.com/2017/08/17/tournament-of-ages-a-literal-game-changer-for-world-of-warcraft/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hnewman/2017/08/12/tournament-of-ages-draws-thousands-to-world-of-warcraft-role-playing/#48f39e8e626c

This is also the event that caused Blizzard to disable sharding in Northrend on roleplaying realms, which in turn inspired many of the streamers that are now in Beta to start Project 60. And that caused a lot of drama on its own.

still loved and played by people 15 years later and still setting sales records?

Then come to my house and we can work on Beta , I got in the same wave as all the streamers :O)

a number of factors, of which pservers was just one.

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You are, the streamers aren’t here talking :poop: every day.

well to be fair, some of them will do it on stream:O)