lol, i do feel for people who are leveling their first character. We’ve been powerleveling guild alts in instances and trying to protect them to pick up and turn in quests. Once you hit the mid 40s though you hit a wall - THOSE zones are utter hell across the board, you’re still too low for BRD, getting into gadget and into ZF is nearly impossible, and maradon groups are hard to come by.
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Density. Nobody experienced this. Period. Its a different, crappy pre-bg wpvp experience for underdogs.
But people insist its just like vanilla. Its not. Those people are legit trolling at this point imho.
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That sounds like good teamwork. Are you also recruiting for rerolls, and offering similar to those who would come to your server, and try helping even the numbers?
Just getting to Gadgetzan? Because of flightpaths, etc.?
I guess nobody is still doing Mara princess runs for the ring? Yeah, ZF/Mara/ST is kind not the greatest dungeon-leveling.
I like how people point out genuine problems, and are being reasonable
and then we just have brainlets like you spouting toxicity on the forums. Youre really doing good for this community keep it up insect. Youre level 55 youre not even partaking in any of the pvp, and if you are youre getting crushed immediately by all the geared 60’s, so why even pretend like you have a leg to stand on
Gadget is heavily horde controlled along with the ZF entrance and lots of folks still doing terrain exploits to avoid guards. The alliance fp is perpetually dead there. There’s also the issue of getting from ironforge or stormwind with the boat situation, again darnassus portals are the best option.
How hard would it be to organize a couple of Raids to change that up? Is it something that people have done/tried? Do you know?
Currently the majority of the alliance raids are focused on obtaining control of areas like thorium point/BRM so folks can get to raid. There simply arent enough alliance to overcome the sheer number of horde raids and we cannot be everywhere at once, which is the major issue.
Hey, I’m almost level 56! So far, I’ve been killed by four level 60s today, but I managed to kill a low HP level 60 mage with a timely Earth Shock crit. Good times, good times. See, all of that action was fun to me… I’m not running to forums complaining about dying on a PvP server. If anything, I’m laughing at those who do. Also: hello, human male paladin! Glad to see that you’re predictably defending the weak. <3
Not for PvP. And not for warriors/mages.
Nobody is complaining about dying on a pvp server, people are complaining that nearly every server is completely dominated by 1 faction. Nobody cares about dying on a pvp server, but when say the horde on stalagg have 100% control over every late game flight point, the entirety of blackrock mountain, its a problem. A problem we cant exactly fix because of how outnumbered we are. People like you are so ignorant to the problem people are talking about, and then go on the forums and spout things like “xd get good why you play on a pvp server”. Not sure how to tell you this friend, but there is no getting good when youre outnumbered 10:3
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What’s that site that shows the numbers based on Warcraftlogs? That’s about as good as we have for showing numbers, and I wouldn’t be surprised if most (if not all) raids have at least 1 person logging.
Anyway, so has anyone contributed to any solutions to raise numbers for Alliance on any of the servers that are heavily Horde?
If so, what? What are people doing?
There have been a number of threads posing solutions, but they quickly get shouted down by trolls.
Some ideas that have been presented:
- Faction-based server queues
- Free one time faction transfers for lopsided servers (shamans being turned to paladins in this case).
- Some kind of small gold, gear, or gametime incentive to encourage players to transfer to servers with underepresented factions
My solution is to just force transfer people on servers that have a dominant faction. But you also have to be careful with that, if a guild gets realm first on something it would be a really dumb move to transfer them. Move guilds that havent done anything noteworthy, and some people who dont have a guild at all. Keep transfers open so friends can stay on the same realm together, but do not let them transfer back to their original realm. It might not be the best solution, but its at least something that i feel would work. Anything to balance out populations would be great though
As constructive as these ideas are, they are all just doing nothing to the extent that it’s asking for someone else to do the work.
I’m asking about solutions that YOU and I can implement right now, without just sitting on our butts complaining, and doing nothing.
Because people expect their problems to be taken care of for them instead of solving the problem themselves. The entitlement is off the charts on the forums now.
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If that’s actually “your” solution, then implement it.
On the contrary, all of these people do care about dying on a PvP server. According to the mass majority of the whining here on the forums, these people get ganked, and instead of trying to organize a proper counter strike via one (or more) PvP raids, they QQ and QQ and QQ until the tauren come home. It’s been said countless times, and I’ll say it as well: solve PvP problems with PvP solutions. It’s as good as these complainers are going to get. Besides: 10:3 is a vast exaggeration. It probably just seems that way to the losers because they’re being crushed so hard.
I dont work at blizzard, i cant do that. I dont see whats so special about it being “my” solution. Its a solution that i thought of and have presented, so what
Then that’s not a solution I am asking about.
I mean, ultimately the underrepresented faction players have their hands tied - there arent really any options for them that wont make the situation worse on their server and on others. They can:
a. quit, further worsening faction imbalance
b. reroll to horde, to pve, or to the single alliance dominated pvp server, also furthering imbalance on existing pvp servers.
c. do nothing
It is the horde players that have all the power to change things here, but without some type of incentive, people simply wont. Its human nature.