The TBC Classic Community wants Dual Spec

It literally should be easy though. Other popular MMO’s do not share this problem. The other person’s post that you quoted is equally nonsensical, it’s them basically whining about the fact that certain tasks require employment, which is an aphorism at most. If I critiqued there being too many recycled assets coming from the art team, for example, the response ‘WELL THEY’D HAVE TO HIRE ARTISTS TO MAKE ART, SO STOP FANTASIZING! (about what, jobs being done?)’ wouldn’t hold up. Substantively speaking, (not rhetorically), all their emphatic CAPITALIZATION of letters in the world doesn’t change the real simplicity of the matter. If such a task were so monumentally fantastical, then other games would share the same problem of botting being rampant.

Of course, I never suggested that botting could be 100% blotted out–there’s always going to be some portion of a community that manages to cheat under the rug, but the majority of the issue being manageable is what’s really at stake, and in other games it has been demonstrated that this is possible to deal with.
If I load up league of legends, which is an even more popular MMO-Moba game, and which does have cheating (wintrading, boosting, scripting), the likelihood of encountering one of these things is miniscule at most. Same principle goes for rival MMORPG’s, which I won’t namedrop. With WoW on the other hand, cheating is far more rampant, despite the playerbase being fewer and the company being very financially equipped (this goes against Mr. “BUT THEY’D HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE!!!” 's argument, incidentally. And that guy’s argument also seems technically ignorant, because you don’t have to manually handle each individual incident of cheating; you’d develop software algorithms to detect cheating/automate the system as is the case with practically all anticheat methods ever implemented across the industry). This issue with rampant cheating is due to negligence more than technical impossibility.
If something as simple as desiring less cheaters in a game plagued with cheaters, (in a world where several popular online games exist which do not share this problem to the same extent) is somehow your idea of what demanding ‘perfection’ looks like, then you’re a sycophant and an apologist. Sorry.

Yes they do. FF14 has to deal with this as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/nff3w9/ffxiv_is_a_bot_haven_and_only_square_enix_is_to/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76T1Z7wQPM

ESO has also had to deal with botting:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/552865/bots-are-ruining-this-experience-for-me

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/lk1mon/hey_zenimax_fix_the_bot_problem_in_this_game/

Botting common in a lot of non-MMO games as well. It’s best to just assume if you make an popular online game today, there will be bots in it at some point in time taking advantage of any loopholes the game inherently provides to maximize profit.

Do you have the numbers on that?

You also need to consider how many people are playing one game over another or think about the cultures surrounding each game.

That’s honestly what a lot of folks are calling for. They seem to assume Blizzard can just flip the switch on cheaters and the problem goes away overnight.

You’re crazy to think people with the ability to switch between 2 specs with ease wouldn’t do so to fill out a group and avoid a half hour wait. It would absolutely reduce the waiting time for groups to fill. Just think of all the fury/arms warriors, shadow priests, etc. that refuse to respec because they don’t farm gold that much.

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No one in favor of dual-spec cares if it was in TBC… #nochanges is a joke.

My concern about #changes is that small changes tend to have bigger effects than people realize, and once something changes it is hard to go back.

There should be a cost to respec, but I think it has to be low enough that a wider range of people would be willing to pay it. I played on Kronos where respecs were only 5g, and people still didn’t want to pay it. Nostalrius capped respecs at 25g.

The question to me is, what are the pros and cons of the 50g respec? Would it be better if the price was raised? Lowered? Why is 50g the right number? And if it isn’t, then what is? Why?

Please duel spec for tbc I need this in my life.

Those people aren’t grouping with you, scrubby.

It’s just need to be refreshed to let devs know that there are those who support this idea of dual spec.

Too small a sample, my vote isn’t in there, and I would have voted against dual spec. My guess would be that the majority didn’t even know someone was running a survey.

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The sample size is huge for the number of people in this community.

Neither is my vote, and I would have voted for Dual Spec.

I think most people who don’t really change spec or is DPS based class have been sticking with no on dual spec.

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You can already have 2 specs in the game so its nothing new being added, just annoyance removed. Dual Spec is good. People in my guild already respec mid raid constantly. It wont change content. Just give it like 5k price to buy or something if you need a gold sink.

I see no problem with this. In the end, you’ll still save more money in a long run.

throughout the history of WoW, before dual spec, after dualspec, after EVERY spec, queues have always waited for tanks and healers. try again.

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add it already blizz

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what people want is irrelevant.
people want their BiS gear. Should Blizzard just give it to them?
The point of the game is to work for your achievements and have consequences for your actions. Chipping away at that is what gave us retail. dual spec is one of those chips.
if you can’t farm 100 gold a week, you were never meant to play this game.

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Thanks for the bump; you are wrong.

you’re welcome; thank you for the spectacular rebuttal

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Rebuttal is unnecessary. All that is needed is for the posts to stay bumped. Thank you for contributing to the cause.

Polls are misleading. Ask Hillary.

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