The Spelladin - new Retribution meta for Classic

Maybe, but it is still only 1 testing scenario. Regardless of how bad it looks, rng is rng. We won’t know until someone can give definitive testing.

consider it “work in progress”.
Closed beta with level caps.
Can only test/verify so much.

Ya, it really sucks

I for one can’t wait to try out this build on live if even half of it pans out- had no real interest in Pally (Ally only, not usually big on the class fantasy) until this thread, and its so unique and so against the grain that I just have to see what happens

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come join our discord and you can follow our collective progress on the beta - a few of our guys are testing like mad!

https://discord.gg/AE3AwRQ

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It’s probably because it predates the concept of PPM. Blizzard didn’t start designing around expected PPM until most of the way through Vanilla; everything before that was designed around flat percentage chances.

You’re missing the point. 2.7% chance to proc is an incredibly odd number. I highly doubt this pre-dates the concept of ppm.

It’s the odds of rolling a 12 on 2d6 (2.78%).

The release of Ironfoe certainly predates the concept of PPM, and I am not aware of any changes having been made to its proc rate over the course of Vanilla. (There were rumors about it happening, of course, but none any more credible than Onyxia deep breathing more).

That’s clever, but way too obscure imo.

Obscurity depends who you ask.

I thought of it off the top of my head, but then, I was designing a 2d6 table earlier today and balancing results against the odds.

I have no idea whether or not any of the original Vanilla developers had experience working with this kind of thing, but for anyone who’s done TTRPG game design (homebrew or professional), it’s not a particularly obscure thought.

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You may actually be right. I don’t doubt this theory entirely.
The more I think about it, the more you make sense here.

FYI Kids - we may have found a weapon/item that would give us 0.5 second base swings but with a 4.0 SoR dmg per swing - this would remove MCP farming from being needed at all.

Going to see if some of our testers are able to reach level 40 to try it on the beta so…

#StayTuned

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Reminds me of that gray dagger in wotlk…

Which weapon is it?

Torch of Retribution
Item Level 1
Quest Item
Unique
Two-Hand
Use: [Use on a Sentry Brazier.]
“The flame never falters”
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=10515/torch-of-retribution

Questitem for a lvl 46 quest. I think we have to wait until they increase the level cap to 50.

the chain opens up at level 40 so we will see how far they can get

Wait what? Hows that dinky little thing gonna replace MCPs?

0.5 speed is +100% of MCP with ~1.0 speed (with use)

That means all proccs will procc 2x compared to MCP

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it makes your base swing speed 0.5 which is GOD mode with SoR up - now add Kiss of the Spider + Scrolls of Blinding Light + Haste Enchants…you get the idea

DING DING DING :slight_smile:

not to mention MCP only has 3 charges per weapon - so you need to farm multiples for a raid every week

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I guess that Weapon is not in the sheets, is it? Would like to see the calculation…

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