The Spelladin - new Retribution meta for Classic

What is the “cast time” for applying shadow oil?
The spell coefficient for 2 second casted spells is 57.14%. If it’s a 2 second cast to apply the oil, it may be getting the coefficient from that. If it’s 1.5 second, maybe it’s getting a buffed 42.86% coefficient from 1.5 second casted spells?

The spreadsheet was able to answer my question about it. It’s a downranking penalty, since Rank 3 Shadow Bolt is learned by warlocks before level 20.

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It’s based off the cast time of the spell, the Sword of Vengeance works the same way as it uses a 2 sec. Cast smite. Pretty sweet to be honest.

Edit: Aryxymaraki, explained it better

Shadow Bolt
Rank 3
70 mana 30 yd range
2.8 sec cast
Sends a shadowy bolt at the enemy, causing 48 to 57 Shadow damage.

  • Level: 12

so it’s subject to the downranking penalty:

Level 20 penalty, applied to all spells level 20 and below based on the level the spell was learned. This applies from the moment the spell is acquired, but it usually does not matter to the lower level characters as [spell power] [gear] is rarely available until later in a character’s progression.

Calculation:
sLvl = Level that the spell is acquired at
Level 20 Penalty Multiplier = 1 - ((20 - sLvl) * 0.0375)
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Downranking

^^^this^^^

At this point, based on what we’ve tested on the beta, if nothing else more works, if everything we’ve tested to be true is true, and nothing at level 45+ scales whatsoever, the spec is already a viable and competitive class. The numbers aren’t lying, and Ret in classic is going to be INSANE in the hands of good players.

We’ve already tested pretty much everything we need to be a competitive DPS class. Everything we get from here on out is pure juice and just adds to the spec. At minimum we’re upper middle of the pack, at best we’re competitive with rogues and warriors, a lot of it is fight dependant, but the sims and raid testing on undocumented servers is going fantastically well.

2019 is the year of the classic ret. No more are we Retardins.

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Hardest challenge will be to convince the community about taking a ret not just as nightfall char.
And to farm tons of that MCP…

and yet if Ironfoe goes live with a 10% proc rate we won’t need to farm gnomer lol…

I read it was 20% :stuck_out_tongue:

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So you would switch Ironfoe in your BiS weapon list to the top then?

“Hey dude, I don’t need that corrupted Ashbringer…it’s just not as good as my 1handed 5man dungeon epic hammer…”

yes and yes

Just for theory…i know there is data existing about the legendary lvl 60 ashbringer with flame procc…i know it’s not in the game but i really wanna know how this one would be ranked.

should be in the dps spreadsheet google doc iirc

Ahh…just downloaded v0.3.6 (had v0.3.4 before) and now I have to write manually TRUE / WRONG for every choice…
If you’re going to do a v0.3.7 please change that back to the klickboxes^^

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/comments/5ahx31/ironfoe_proc_chance/

According to tests done during 1.11.2 the proc rate is 2.7%. Unless there was a stealth buff during 1.12, I wouldn’t get your hopes up for 10-20%, those look to just be pserver numbers.

This (the 2.7% proc rate) sounds familiar to me in that sort of ‘I had no distinct memory of this but I saw it and the neurons lit up’ way.

If it was ever 10-20%, we’ve never found anything substantial on that. It’s more than likely 2.7% as of 1.12.

.675 ppm sounds like an odd number. Was there anything else that had lower than 1 ppm?

I was saying that earlier. That’s just a weird number.

I think Ironfoe must have been stealth nerfed at some point.

#REMINDME in 6 months