The reasons why i believe that the wow token would be beneficial for SoD

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Aguy-grobbulus

Nah it’s a fact that neither Wrath or Cataclysm are Classic.

Please see the above post where cataclysm classic is listed on the front page of the Blizzard WoW classic page:

World of Warcraft®: Cataclysm Classic™

[Aguy-grobbulus]

Classic in the title doesn’t make it Classic. Those are rereleased retail expansions.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Aguy-grobbulus

Classic in the title doesn’t make it Classic.

I am going to have to politely disagree with you on this topic.

Blizzard put classic in the title for “wotlk classic” and “cataclysm classic” because they are classic wow, which is why they are both displayed on the classic wow website created by blizzard.

Should you disagree with the statement I just made, I would urge you to discuss this with blizzard and have them remove classic from the titles.

But as long as classic is in the title of “wotlk classic” and “cataclysm classic”, the position is that they are classic wow as blizzard created the games and thus the label given to them by blizzard will always be the correct label.

Have a lovely day, friend

[Aguy-grobbulus]

You know exactly what I mean, you’re just being cheesy.

[Santi-lava-lash]

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

So, the WoW token has been very successful in both retail and wotlk classic and i believe that is for a number of reasons.

What metrics are you using to define success? If it’s anything other than financial, you’re misinformed.

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

Giving players the option to purchase gold directly from Blizzard provides many players with a more enjoyable experience while playing the game as they can log on and spend their free time raiding or engaging with pvp instead of farming gold.

It also undermines character progression, which is the entire basis of an RPG game. Name one good RPG game that allowed you to bypass progression and levels with real money.

Other genres of games have raids, if you don’t like progressing in an RPG game, don’t play an RPG game.

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

Second, WoW has a problem with players who bot to farm gold who then sell it to the community at large.

RMT or Real Money Trading is against the rules set forth by blizzard and anyone caught should be banned. But it is no secret that ban waves aren’t that effective because not everyone engagin in RMT gets banned.

If blizzard were to add the wow token to Season of Discovery, then that would basically completely eliminate all demand for illicit RMT gold from bots as players could purchase the gold directly from blizzard.

Many players have conjectured that the most recent restriction on GDKP raids is blizzard’s attempt to curb illicit gold purchasing and RMT within the game.

Well, if players could just buy the gold directly from blizzard with the WoW Token (same as they do in Wotlk Classic and Retail), then there would literally be zero demand for illicit gold purchases via RMT.

Only an idiot believes the demand for illicit gold would be completely eliminated. Pot legalization has not eliminated the demand of the black market.

You’re simply ignorant of that black market because it’s inconvenient for you to acknowledge it exists.

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

Third, i would like to note that Season of Discovery is an amalgamation of classic and retail wow. You have the classic vanilla world and questing while taking some pieces from retail to augment it: Divine Storm on paladin, lava lash on enhance shaman, etc.

Since SOD takes pieces of the game from retail to bring it into classic, i think bringing the wow token over to SOD would work perfectly well and be very beneficial to the game.

Both examples you mentioned existed by the time of Wrath of the Lich King, and there isn’t anything which was added which wasn’t added by Cata at the very latest.

So at which point did you choose to draw the extremely arbitrary line of “retail” and “not retail?”

[Stormwolf-khaz-modan]

SoD is the last good wow option.

Don’t ruin it for me with this crap.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Stormwolf-khaz-modan

SoD is the last good wow option.

and the wow token will make it even better!

[Xurf-grobbulus]

nope, it will kill it. hope you get banned for suggesting so

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Aguy-grobbulus

You know exactly what I mean,

yes i know what you mean, you are attempting to re-define wotlk classic and cata classic as not being classic wow titles, but the issue with that attempt is that you did not develop either of those games…

also you did not develop original vanilla wow, either.

seeing as how you are not a developer or the owner of the IP for classic wow, you really aren’t qualified to make a judgment call such as this.

blizzard has labelled cata classic and wotlk classic as classic titles, therefore they are classic wow… you really have no say in this matter until you become the lead developer of classic wow…

thank you for your input, though my friend

@Xurf-grobbulus

hope you get banned for suggesting so

well my suggestion would make blizzard TONS of money, so i think they would be greatful for it.

[Xurf-grobbulus]

where is your evidence to back up that claim, that it would make them tons of money? blizzard doesn’t make as much money as candy crush

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Xurf-grobbulus

that it would make them tons of money?

look at how much money the wow token has made for blizzard in retail and wotlk classic… there is your evidence…

thank you so much for your input, my wonderful friend

[Aguy-grobbulus]

They’re simply not Classic. They’re just rereleases, but they espouse none of the values of the players who originally pushed the devs to provide Classic to begin with. They’re FOTM cash grabs.

Classic should have stayed based in Vanilla as Era + Seasons/fresh. When Cataclysm rerelease fails that’s all Classic should be moving forward.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Aguy-grobbulus

but they espouse none of the values of the players who originally pushed the devs to provide Classic to begin with.

this is really a judgment call that can only be made by the developers of classic, though.

i would like to take your opinion into account but unfortunately, you simply are not qualified to discuss this matter.

@Bulakzebgor-faerlina

blizzard has labelled cata classic and wotlk classic as classic titles, therefore they are classic wow… you really have no say in this matter until you become the lead developer of classic wow…

have a lovely day, my friend

[Jsc-crusader-strike]

Remember when Blizzard themselves used the same excuse to introduce the original WoW token to Vanilla, pretending it was a means to combat bots/RMT and definitely not a means for them to grab a few slices of the RMT pie?

Remember how it didn’t work at all to combat RMT in Retail nor Classic Wrath?

It’s definitely not like times and technology has changed since the original implementation of the WoW token where it’s easier, cheaper, and requires less manpower to steer hundreds of bots to farm thousands and thousands of gold.

Stop acting like Blizzard ever cared about RMT. That entire streamer guild in Classic HC was openly buying all kinds of gold and nobody caught a ban.

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Jsc-crusader-strike

That entire streamer guild in Classic HC

only fangs was so cool! i loved watching them so much doing their GDKPs, it was so cool, really inspired me to start engaging with GDKPs!

without Only Fangs, classic would never have been so much fun!

[Xurf-grobbulus]

where is the evidence?

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Xurf-grobbulus

the evidence?

the evidence is that Retail WoW and Wotlk Classic are thriving with the addition of the wow token and SoD classic is barely hanging on by a thread in terms of popularity.

[Jsc-crusader-strike]

“Thriving”

[Bulakzebgor-faerlina]

@Jsc-crusader-strike

Thriving

and the popularity of SoD will just plummet even more now that there are no more GDKPs, which blizzard will see and then they will reinstate GDKPs along with the wow token

[Jsc-crusader-strike]

Because retail and Wrath era are both “thriving” lmfaoooo