The reason why Havoc DH is still bad in PvP and will get even worse next patch

Damage on dh is fantastic and the skillplays you have for avoiding cc are really strong

Most dh players just unga bunga a healer, line, get stunned and die

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This is so true.

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Havoc is fine just kill someone b4 they kill you.

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This seems to be par the course for DH each season. I think many of them long for pre-patch DF where they were soulrending targets 100-0 with 1 tick.

This used to describe DH too. I miss that DH.

I want to press W.

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Crazy how the spec with its entire back story on “Sacrifice” is asking for boofs. If you want boofs as DH you dont deserve the play the main protagonist spec of World of Warcraft, reroll.

2400 2v2 dh guide

  • Chase heals till they los weirdly
  • immune the kidney/maim/stormbolt/coil/etc etc etc
  • incap healer
  • burst dps with your healer
  • ggwp

Crazy how lost 99% of the dh population is

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Havoc Demon Hunter is doing just fine. The people that play it simply need to step up.

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Do I pass with my mog?

This is how Feral plays this xpac and it’s very enjoyable.

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I unironically appreciate your honesty!

There is some truth to this. Dh is definitely worse than a lot of specs. There’s not really a reason to play with a dh over a fury war/dk/feral/rogue.

That also doesn’t mean it’s bad, though, and I really don’t feel like it needs huge defensive buffs.

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Press purge and you’ll heal for as much as a warrior, if not more, and sometimes give yourself +20% damage.

You literally do have on demand healing and it’s stupid strong.

No that’s stupid. It’s already crazy powerful.

DH’s only issue is sustain damage right now and post patch if they numbers tune us properly that goes away. DH will be really strong.

BM Hunter, feral, rogue, and fury traditionally suck for DH.

Guess what’s strong right now?

Oh golly, if only we could all figure out why DH isn’t seen as much Nas!

You know what? I do think we need a massive defensive buff and blur CDR to 30s and make it a 60% wall then DH would be playable.

Jeez I can’t believe you hate DH so much to not see how weak DH is!!!

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Fury is losing battle trance and will immediately drop to F tier. You will still have MS, omnidirectional dodge, significant crystal healing, disorients that dont immediately break on damage, chase, stealth sight that doesnt break on damage and magic mitigation.

Am I missing something?

Bring back sporepods, diamond laced refracting prism, and blade dance dodge. Also make auto blur baseline, increase leech by 100%, and buff darkness back to 70%.

Once all of that is done it’s time to move onto damage. Remove all of the damage from eye beam and essence break and add it all into blade dance. This will help by making it impossible to mess up our damage while also making it impossible for our enemies to avoid it.

Go to jail.

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Let me at least buy you dinner before you sweet talk like that.

Oh you forgot to bring back mana rift. It was good for the game - I swear.

Too bad there isn’t a single DH even at 2300 in 2v2 LOOOL

there’s few classes at 2300

I’ve been looking for a DH to play with for a long time

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You’ll be looking for a while

Because there are no indications of anything going well for this spec now and in the future

Unfortunately the majority of reply opinions are based around “oh look guys I got 1800 fast DH is fine” yes, you got 1800 fast, the literal beginner MMR in Solo Shuffle right now. Try to get higher, and then either blatantly lie or be silent about it continuing to be “easy”.

Once again, this thread IS NOT ABOUT DAMAGE.

It’s about DEFENSIVES. That don’t exist.

Running away is not a defensive for specs that rely on having uptime.

Hunters were also told to “run away and kite” before they got their defensive CD buffs. And those are HUNTERS, they still do their maximum damage from range, even Survival to a high degree.