people dont have common sense anymore its like arguing with a toddler.
p2w in wow would be to buy gold and directly buy loot. if you buy loot in gdkps whether u farmed the gold or bought it its not directly p2w bc you still have to do the content. like the guy said above its a disney fastpass. gdkp is only p2w if there is competitive pvp in which you buy gold to use bis items in a competition
I never said GDKPs are THE problem for anything. GDKPs will exist with or without RMT or anything like that. All I’m saying is that they aren’t good for the game.
So you’d rather have a dead game full of great players, vs a lively game with a mixed bag of good and “bad” players?
Why did Blizzard revert their layer change with Ashenvale event? It’s because the realms felt dead. Dead population in a MMORGP = dead game.
Lost ark has some lite pay to win elements, not as bad a lot of free games but they’re there.
WoW does not.
“Pay To Win” is defined as games in which you get an advantage in the game if you spend real money on items, weapons or features and are thus clearly superior to other players."
Your advantage is buying raid loot with your credit card.
Yep, as I was saying.
Wow that was easy.
no thats not pay to win because no matter what item it is you are buying everyone has an equal chance at that item by killing the boss lmfao. are you seriously this…nevermind XD
But you have not explained why besides you arbitrarily not liking the loot style.
Pro tip everyone in WoW can be gotten just as easily without RMT.
Hence not P2W.
Pay to win doesnt mean getting items nobody can get.
It just means paying for an advantage that others dont have, such as buying loot with your credit card instead of RNG rolls.
Some of you are so far behind in the race you actually believe you are leading.
There are many more items that would fetch high prices in each of the raids.
MC: Mageblade, BRE, Onslaugh, ToEP, TF, Hand of Rag, Perds, leaf, eye
BWL: DFT, Ashkhandi, CTS, MQG, Maladath, Rejuv Gem, Tear, Lok’amir, the head
People even pay high for tier (assuming it’s good), if they are one or two pieces shot you bet they’ll empty some of their pockets to make sure they get it.
I can go on, there are multiple items in every raid that could fetch a high price tag. Wish I could go back and pull up some ledgers
i’d simply rather play a game and operate within their ToS. gdkp if anything increase the population 10 fold and gdkp are not against ToS. your argument is that gdkp is not good for the game and you have not supported your argument with a single fact. you just keep throwing side jabs and generalizations that are made up and your opinions on it?
It’s not good because things on the AH become unaffordable for people who dont buy gold.
There’s one easy one for ya rude boy.
read please, bc it seems like you are basing loot off “fairness” what if 7/10 players die on the pull of the first boss and 3 players 3 man the first boss and it takes x7 more time to kill it. do those 7 players deserve to roll on the loot? if you answered yes then this discussion is over and theres no helping your brain cope. gdkp is as fair as it gets and is a win win for everyone at the end. the only loot system that beats gdkp is a non-fraternized rclootcouncil
i cant name how many times i killed kelris since launch and saw the epic staff drop and the people who won it 5x+ did not put the same effort in buffs, activity, leading etc and they get the loot over me or a buddy who are 100% carrying (this is just 1 example) some guys afk or tabbed watching a video wins the roll lol. come on man how do you not understand? like you 100% have to be “one of those guys” can i see any of your logs?
Gold does not change, how hard bosses hit, what mechanics they have, the items they drop, what those drop rates are or how many lockouts you can do.
So no sorry there is no P2W in WoW.
So one week after phase 2 if a dude with a bunch of raid items who did GDKPs kills a dude who did legit raids and hasnt gotten anything, that’s literally pay to win.
End of story.
I am not sure if you meant to reply to me or what? your reply makes no sense to the statement you replied to?
You can buy arena ranks and mythic clears and keystone hero with gold.
WoW is 100% pay to win.
And people can get those things without paying, so no it’s not 
So you think that the amount of gold someone has changes the drop rates of items?
So you even play WoW?
Pay to win doesnt mean things nobody can get.
no because the alternate way is to be in a guild that funnels loot to you? which happens all the time?? or a guy who comes into your pug raid grey parses and wins all the rolls. if you look in the mirror right now and are telling yourself you are correct here well I am not sure there is much hope for you lol. the fact remains what the definition of pay to win is and you seem to not understand that definition.