The ranking system is abusive and unhealthy and therefore needs a simple fix

this is why it is classic and why the game was changed

I think the only thing that edges out aq gear through pvp is the weapons, but barely. Not enough to put a r14 head and shoulders above an aq 40 geared player.

r12-13 gear is not on par with AQ 40 what are you talking about lol? It is on par with BWL. And even then, only if you want stamina. The weapons are on par with AQ40, but that is all, and slightly worse.

Bud, there’s all kinds of stuff in this world deemed “unhealthy” that the individual (consumer) is responsible for moderating on their own.

McCormick’s Vodka isn’t going to blacklist me from retail outlets because they’re concerned about me drinking a half gallon a day. Nestle isn’t going to stop making Crunch bars available to me because I’m gorging myself to the tune of a case of king sizes a day. Pornhub isn’t going to deny me service if they notice I’m perusing their site 15hrs a day seven days a week.

Moderation and good judgement are on the consumers shoulders, not the maker or supplier.

And don’t think for a second I believe you’re genuinely concerned for the well-being of other gamers. See right through that BS. A few people out there are going to obtain an absolutely meaningless title in a fantasy world video game and you’re not, and you goddam don’t like it.

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Pvp gear has higher stam, higher total ap, higher total crit chance (after converting the agil to crit) , higher hit and a faster intercept. How do you not see a clear winner for pvp, world grinding and raid viability.

LOL did you seriously compare a SIX piece set with a FIVE piece set?

Yes i did. Add your gloves from aq40.

Im proving that its better than BWL gear, because its on par with aq40 gear for raid dps, and better overall for pvp

lol man, you are really not that smart. It is not better than BWL gear, other than a few pieces being SLIGHTLY better, and who cares? it is 100x harder to get than t2 gear. Also we were talking about AQ40, which completely outshines it. FIVE pieces of AQ 40 is comparable to SIX pieces of r13. Do u not see that? Add any sort of epic item and you just are way better than r13 if you go AQ gear.

And lets not pretend AQ40 gear is hard to get, raiding is easier than retail LFG.

I’m pretty sure I played without addons in 2004, but definitely used one of the pearl/pitbull unit frame addons in 2005.

No it does not ‘outshine it’. Im talking about gear for pvp - both instanced and world.

It really depends on the class.

There are arguments to be made for the warrior set, because of the set bonuses and other factors.

It also shouldn’t be understated that getting a drop off C’Thun is not an easy task.

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okay, so what if PvP gear is better for PvP than PvE gear lmao? What are you even arguing now?

Cthun is easy, you will see once it comes out. Vanilla raids are literally nothing for today’s gamers. Guaranteed AQ40 pugs after a month or whenever most ppl done the attune.

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Because you are trying to tell me that AQ40 gear completly outshines pvp gear for pvp. Go and re-read what you wrote.

didnt say it outshines for PvP? And for a lot of classes AQ gear probably does. I was talking about PvE. If r13 outshines AQ for PvP, who cares?

Honestly, who cares? Pretending this is about your concern over the health of others seems pretty sketchy.

Somebody dying due to overplaying basically just raised teh average iq of humanity. People die due to being stupid every day - it sucks on one level, but, seriously… who cares?

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God forbid people that go hard and do the work get awarded…

All the pve players pushing rank to get the bis gear to ensure AQ40 is easy mode.

Stop trying to devalue the pvp gear. You know you want it. You know that you will have a higher chance at hitting rank and buying everything you need as waiting for those drops in raids week in week out can be a pain.

u really cant read can u? “If r13 outshines AQ for PvP, who cares?” How is being better for >>PVP<< going to make aq 40 easy mode?

Because its better than BWL gear.