And someone else speeding on the highway doesn’t mean you can speed as well. What other people does have no bearing on your actions. This isn’t pre-k and you point at another kid and scream ‘they’re doing it too’ to get away with it.
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Profanity has always been banned since 2004. If someone reports your chat which you used profanity it will almost always result in action.
If you cannot restrain yourself from using profanity in public chats you should turn public chat channels off.
If you cannot restrain yourself from using profanity at other players you shouldn’t respond or whisper other players.
This thread is going no where and should be locked, also if you keep this up Lightsolou you will likely also get a ban on the forums as well.
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It is obviously much harder to punish audio than text. That doesn’t mean that using that language verbally is ok, nor that if you did get punished for it, you would have any luck just coming to the forums and saying everyone else is doing it so why did I get punished.
There are rules for voice chat in CoD, and they use AI to attempt to punish it https://support.activision.com/articles/call-of-duty-voice-chat-moderation
I don’t know what they consider against the ToS. Warcraft aims itself to a teen audience, hence cursing is not allowed. CoD may not have the same rules, and may allow more language. If that’s important to you, play that instead.
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I’m not suggesting it’s okay at all. I’m anti racism- anti hate speech. Etc. etc
It’s simply what is happening
That is not a license for you to break the rules
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Also, just because you don’t see someone get in trouble doesn’t mean they aren’t getting in trouble.
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The original penalty for chat infractions, including profanity, was a Suspension. Going back to 2004. In 2016 they tried a “Silence” penalty that removed social features in-game. That penalty did not have the impact of deterring the unwanted behavior, so they went back to Suspensions again after a first infraction.
The current penalty model for social infractions is:
- 1st offense 1 week Silence
- 2nd offense 1 week Suspension
- 3rd offense 2 week-ish Suspension
- Escalating eventually to license closure
Profanity, or masked profanity, has been against Blizzard’s rules since WoW was released in 2004. There is even a profanity filter to protect kids from those who can’t follow the rules - not to permit people to break those rules.
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The only one crying here is the person who looked at the rules, agreed to the rules, then seems surprised that the rules got enforced.
YOU, and only you are responsible for your actions in game. You are upset that you are being held responsible for your own actions.
Nobody is offended or upset by your behavior. They just realize it is not appropriate for the game and reported you. Much like a speeding ticket. You got caught. You got penalized.
Right click report anything like that that is not appropriate for the game! Others breaking the rules does not excuse your own choices. Just like you don’t get out of a speeding ticket because someone else did something worse.
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You signed it. End of story. You don’t want to follow it, expect endless suspensions and eventual account closure. That is all there is to it. Follow the rules or get punished. It doesn’t matter how much you agree or not, those are Blizzard’s rules, and they will enforce them.
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If you can’t follow the rules, then don’t play the game.
Only rights you have in wow is spelled out in tos and elua
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That sub based model means that paying customers matter. Those paying customers reported your behavior. Those paying customers matter more than the people who can’t take responsibility for their own behavior.
P.S. Blizzard and Activision don’t have the same rules and enforcement teams. They may be under the same parent companies, but they are separate entities. They do their own moderation, rule enforcement - set their own policies.
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Because they are irrelevant.
If you want to give feedback on the current state of the rules, this is not the place to get said feedback looked at by blizzard.
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Private servers not only agaist tos but very much against the law
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The rules for WoW have not changed in 20 years. You have no right to “free speech” on private property. You have the right to review the rules and decide if you want to follow them or not. If not, you can be removed from that private property.
Reminder of the 2004 rules if you need it. They have not changed.
Original User Manual from 2004 https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/template_resource/LO0VQ46XB1281555957773363.pdf - which has the EULA at the end. It points to the requirements for accepting Terms of Use with the website for it. I selected the first archived Wayback Machine TOU for WoW from 2004. I have copied out the relevant sections for you. Yes, it included hateful names and speech as well as profanity, masked profanity, spam, etc.
https://web.archive.org/web/20041217101250/http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.shtm
When engaging in Chat in World of Warcraft, or otherwise utilizing World of Warcraft, you may not:
- (i) Transmit or post sexually explicit images or other content or language which in the sole discretion of Blizzard Entertainment is deemed to be offensive; nor shall you transmit any unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable content or language, nor may you use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent the content and language restrictions listed above;
- (vii) Harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort to another user of World of Warcraft or other person or entity; or
Nothing, and I mean nothing, has changed with regard to the rules in WoW. You don’t seem to realize that. The reporting is easier than it used to be because we have improved tools.
You also seem to think I work for Blizzard. MVPs are other players, not Blizzard staff. They don’t speak for, or represent, Blizzard. I did not make any rules, nor do I enforce any rules. The most I can explain the policies in place and why you got penalized.
You read the rules.
You accepted the rules.
You broke the rules.
You are being held responsible for your own actions.
What you do in private chats with friends is unlikely to be reported. What you say in public chat/groups in WoW is certainly going to be seen by strangers - other paying players who come from all walks of life and are of all ages and backgrounds.
YOU and only YOU are responsible for your actions. Stop blaming everyone else that you could not follow 20 year old rules.
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If you can’t have a nice topic without cursing, then that person who can’t handle their cursing isn’t someone who can handle themselves in important meetings and the like. Every adult know they need to know when to turn that offer for stuff that it isn’t required.
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This isn’t toxic positivity, because you’re allowed to criticize the game and blizzard on their platform. You’re just not allowed to use profanity to do it.
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If you have to cuss to have fun, this is not the game for you. You are not some beacon, you are not even remotely in the right. Rules are rules. You didn’t follow them, and then had shocked Pikachu face when you were punished for it. This is on you. Not Blizzard.
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I am sure Blizzard will deal with that when someone is on shift. In addition to not taking responsibility for following the rules you agreed to, you don’t seem to know who the Blizzard staff are. They post in Blue. They will eventually be along to sweep up.
You are not a rebel for using profanity in public channels in game - no more than you would be a cool rebel for speeding down the street. That choice is yours to make, but you need to accept that you will pay the consequences for those choices if caught.
The blues will be the ones to have the last word - and make any decisions on forum penalties.
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You’re allowed to say it out loud in your own room, to your dog or cat or just the PC.
Just not type it out in game.
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