Did aldor or scryers give game changing perks that also dictated your aesthetic? If so, probably, if not, I doubt it.
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Muh Shoulder Enchant
You make a good point. The whole rented power system.is what blizz decided would be best. In your analogy every expansion they remove all the plates and start over with new ones. While you want them to add a new couple of plates every expansion. Both have their advantages and drawbacks.
Didn’t they give exclusive enchants, gems and recipes? I’m really not sure.
I’m not a FotMer and I’m annoyed with the fact that I have to choose between aesthetics and power. I don’t want my DK to be with the Night Fae but their DK ability is the best one.
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People should get to choose what aesthetics and story they like the most without feeling like they’re making their character weaker or sacrificing power by doing so.
This is a bad system, we all know how this will end up.
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The enchants were fairly minor and even then yes there were a lot of people who were upset that they were locked behind a thematic choice.
That is the thing. We know Blizzard will end up changing it just like they did with every single system in BfA.
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Well this has been fun but I have to start my day off. I’ll check back later once this debates solves all of shadowlands issues.
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With BfA it’s more like they just ignored the complaints because they were busy with Shadowlands. The problem being of course that it looks like they’ve learned nothing about what make BfAs systems bad. Same thing that happened with the bad parts about Legions systems being there on BfA launch.
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They do it every expansion, roll out a system a lot of people warn them we’ll hate, they make some claim on how it’s too late in the development cycle to change anything, people actually hate it as predicted, they nerf it, next expansion they bring out the same thing but with a slightly different name.
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Classes are badly balanced as is, and you actually want them to create a sub-class system on top of an already unbalanced game?
10/10 logic right there pal.
I’m tired of these posts, but I’ll always respond to them because I truly believe this is the system to ruin the expansion.
It’s the Garrison / Legendary & AP Grind / Azerite gear of Shadowlands.
I’m far from a FoTM picker or min-maxer.
But I know how bad it could be for the game.
Too true.
But with BFA it wasn’t that it was too late, it was that they simply dismissed the players feedback because Blizzard figured they knew the system better than the players so our opinions weren’t that important.
That was a sad admission from Ion honestly.
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It’s also why we have this level squish, because having a rented power system every expansion turned out to not be such a great idea after all.
For example, the talent system was revamped in MoP back in 2012. We had six rows of talents, up to level 90.
Now it’s 2020, and we have seven rows of talents, up to 100. And that seventh row was added in 2014. It’s been six years since we got a new row of talents thanks to all these rented power systems.
But instead of improving our classes, they leave things purposefully broken so they can fill the holes with whatever rented power gimmick they come up with.
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I know you get a lot of hate on these forums. But I’ve been browsing for years and it’s rare to find a well articulated post, with some actual thought provoking content, that is controversial, which can be debated and discussed.
I think you draw some good comparison’s. Races, classes, and covenants are choices we make that reflect what we enjoy playing. What we enjoy is not always optimal, and that’s okay.
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Are you talking about Ralph? Because he’s just a member of the peanut gallery who shows up every now and then to blindly defend something Blizzard has done that other players don’t like.
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It isn’t just “we hate it”, people are giving out well constructed and detailed reasons why it is hated and Blizzard is like “meh” then suddenly X.1 it is rush to fix a broken system.
They did it in legion with legendries when they were warned that they are balancing classes around them and that some classes/specs were flat out broke w/o certain ones. Then on top of that with the RNG of obtaining them some people may never see the legendary they needed to make their class play correctly.
7.0 BM hunter was the worst iteration of the spec since vanilla. Literally spent 75%+ of my time just auto attacking until I got my legendary shoulders (which thank god was my first one) and the belt.
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Just like any class that is trash in arenas ;^)
Imo there blizz needs to make covenants spec specific considering playing a tank is nothing like playing a dps should they should be seen as separate characters
True but its worth a try and I assume that is what they are trying to do since Ion wants to remove the simming mindset from players who dont need it
Covenants are a major gameplay choice just like classes, so should or shouldnt is irrelevant, it is what they are
Look you know im gay and like big hairy bears so I would love to poke some parts of dem bears uwu
All their complaints the moment you replace the word covenant with class suddenly becomes “we demand to change classes for each individual boss cuz X class performs better”
That is the FotM mindset
Same thing will happen with covenants and that isnt so wrong, people should advocate for better balance
Because they want to FotM and be optimal for every single boss, m+ and pvp, that means just like classes, they need to level the most optimal class for different content, you dont see ppl playing MM in arenas sadly ;_;
My last thread got reported by the same people 3 times, mods restored it again and again xD
I wonder if they ll start banning ppl who misuse the report function
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That was certainly them falling flat on their face. BM Hunters spent a large chunk of the expansion saying Dire Beast needed two charges. Then they eventually added it as a legendary, which you needed to be lucky enough to get. Then, once the expansion was half over, they finally woke up and made it a baseline part of the spec.
It’s kind of amazing how stubborn they can be over the littlest things.
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We’re trying to. You’re actively fighting against any attempt at balancing the Covenants.
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Ah yes, the never ending battle between those who actually want a little rpg in their mmorpg, and those who want “balance”.
Nothing has ruined more good MMORPGs than “balance”, not even the dreaded “Quality of life” changes.
So yeah, lets take away the only interesting aspect of Shadowlands, and make sure covenants are somehow all either perfectly balanced, or somehow hot swap-able so player x’s ego isn’t damaged by a slightly lower parse than player y.
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