It would have meaning during the expansion though…
Forcing a “hard choice” on a rental is like sniffing root beer up your nose. Yeah you can do it but it isn’t impressive at all.
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FotM is an important consideration.
seriously…
Screw it I’m silencing this and any other Ralph thread .
Not worth my time.
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Exactly.
The current system doesn’t add meaningful choices. It actually removes a lot of choices that could be made. And players will still go to icy-veins or look at the method/limit players to see what covenant they should pick for their preferred content type.
Ralph likes to tout all of this propaganda with arguments that sadly don’t hold much weight - the only argument he’s made that is solid and that makes complete sense is in relation to the punishment players are exposed to with the system.
This is probably a stupid question but are you able to leave a covenant and start over? Like let’s say I started out in shadowlands focusing on pve, would I then be able to go back and pick the pvp covenant if I decide I want to just mess around in bgs later in the xpac?
Yes but stop equating it to class choices in that case. Classes follow us past expansions, temporary things like Legion Weapons and Legendaries and BfA Azerite armor and Corruptions do not. It’s much more sensible to compare them to talents because those change more often.
So what? They don’t have to span expansions for the choice to make a difference lol.
You’re being disingenuous by trying to compare Covenants to classes. Compare them to something else otherwise you come across somewhat trolly.
I can buy a level boost I can’t buy a new max covenant
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Ion quite clearly said you SHOULDNT BE CHANGING COVENANT WEEK TO WEEK.
Which means the easiest it will be it would if they allowed non punishing changes would be once per month which I am not sure you ll like.
Sounds like hypocricy.jpg
This isnt about me or you, i am stating what is the current design
Your playstyle depending on procs per min is expecting too much, my playstyle thankfully is more realistic and focuses on how the class plays as a whole instead of having enough prcs or not
You want to tell yourself your hunter is a master markman, beastmaster and survivalist in his head? I think that is called mary sue so i ll stick to my headcanon of each spec=different character
You can easily mongo with a rogue too, it has a high skill ceiling but you can still do well as a rogue, now put the same unskilled rogue to play a caster in pvp and they are utterly obliterated.
So you want to be best at everything but spend no effort, ok I find this delusional and unrealistic and silly and asking for handouts but hey, you do you
Yeah because I believe that equating covenant to class is a superior argument one of which i did not include or focus on the previous OP, some of us evolve based on new data, some others cannot see the minor details i guess
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No I’m not lol. They don’t have to be the exact same thing to have meaningful choice. What a ridiculous position.
Then you know that you dont need the FotM to do content and can do content jsut fine sub optimally.
Lol that depends on the caster. Destro lock? Pfft lol. Fire mage? Pfffft lol. A lot of casters don’t take much either.
Dang. It’s almost like you can change the OP of that thread if only a minor detail was missing.
You can change covenants without much of an issue, the issue will be rejoining a covenant you left since Ion said it is similar to “breaking an Oath”
Plus I am pretty sure changing a covenant means you ll also have to grind out their campaign and whatever upgrades and soulbinds we get.
I would stay it would still require more skill as it is very easy to simple glue yourself to a target and pve with the current ridiculous melee mobility.
Compared to playing a class that can be interrupted, knockbacked, cc at the end of their cast resulting in them being useless for the duration of the effect+wasted cast time.
Casters requires imo a lot more skill than melee and has been since legion, things were different in mop but we are not in mop
Well destro locks don’t need to move. Fire Mage’s have a spell they need to hit you with 3 times for you to die. I agree with you but not all casters are very skillful
Ion has said a lot of things, he said that Azerite wouldn’t be as bad as we thought it would be, he was wrong.
Hypocrisy like saying that you think it’s okay for one character to join 3 Covenants with 3 specs but not be able to change them?
Yet you’ve stated that you’re fine with the grindy gameplay, if it goes away are you going to complain about it?
I’ve never stated that procs per minute is how I judge gameplay enjoyment, I’ve said synergy between abilities is how I judge my enjoyment, procs may or may not be a part of it. If you want a realistic look at how MM feels to play, then take off all your Azerite Gear and see how “fun” the class feels to play.
Your headcanon goes against reality.
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Comparing Covenants and classes is also a ridiculous position.
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Green Jesus, how many covenant threads you’re gonna make where you basically just say the same exact thing? 
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