Flocket, I’d like to refer you to the end of Billy Madison and his speech regarding The Puppy Who Lost His Way. The contest host’s response more accurately describes my feelings, upon reading any of the drivel you spew onto these forums, than I ever could in writing.
https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0 So more insults, got it! Yeah, you have nothing to contribute beyond “Slippery Slope, LOL”.
Just telling you how I feel, cutie. 
I’ve already established, over the course of various “arguments” (hard to even call them that when they consist of me making logical points and you screeching incoherently) with you, that there’s no point in arguing with someone who is incapable of grasping what a logical fallacy even is, let alone how a statement constitutes one.
Okay. I did.
From the start of the thread you made SUPER ULTRA AWESOME ARGUMENT OF ALL TIMES™:
Enough is enough. Can’t handle it, Retail is that way —>
This is one wat to put your words out.
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I was trying to find your more valid arguments further, cause since you linked this thread to me there definitely should be something of value for you right?
And using the fact that Blizz decided to change certain things is meaningless and a bad excuse to add even more changes. Rendering the Classic project meaningless. Instead of trying to remove the knife from the body, we (generalizing) just want to add more knives to the body because the body already has a knife in it.
This is the same as I was telling before, your “you HURTING IT” is subjective. Same as mine. But for me my subjective > your subjective. So It’s not a valid argument. Also again: Retail devs =/= Classic devs. I trust Classic devs more than Retail ones.
The whole point of #nochanges is to avoid adding more changes to it.
It is not. #nochange started as a strict demand of people who signed a petition and those who didn’t sign a petition btu wanted to feel elitist with power and was created as an ultimatum to blizzard cause of their “you think you do but you don’t” shait which they sprew previously on a blizzcon. Now All players shoving them this phrase in the face whenever they feel powerless against Blizzard, even if player’s decisions suck shait more than decisions of Blizzards. But I digress, Blizz deserves it.
But then you went on it again:
Because it’s all bad. Look at what’s happening! People see changes and cling onto accepting more change, until Classic becomes no longer Classic. We have people asking for Classic+ or TBC/Wrath 'cause obviously Classic isn’t all that suitable for them. That or history is repeating itself, and we’re doomed to repeat the same mistake and ending up with Retail, again. I don’t see how you can’t possibly see this.
Particularly I like these:
Because it’s all bad.
We have people asking for Classic+ or TBC/Wrath 'cause obviously Classic isn’t all that suitable for them.
Oh praise the lord all knowing and all seeing. Are you real? THose points nothing but your personal view on peoples thoughts. They aren’t right, nor wrong, they are again: subjective. And where you see
all bad
I (or other people) see okay/good/wow
Overall you picked very game breaking changes that people want: like Achievements (although I would LOVE to have them, I also thing they shouldn’t be in Classic), personal loot and GBank (this one is a bit dual cause with GBank guilds would have more stuff to do TOGETHER, but without GBank they learn to work together in a different way, so I don’t see problems in havening or NOT having guild bank in Classic).
But didn’t explicitly explained yourself. Especially on such objects as bugs, unfinished stuff (like sometimes character does animation of “doing” sometimes doesn’t, sometimes GUI shows you one thing and sometimes it shows you different for the same kind of logic: like quests marks on minimap) and graphical update which should be made as toggle which turned off by default.
Moreover I read this thread and I saw only that you didn’t describe your arguments at all. Like there are no argument there except “blizzards said they won’t so HA!” or “if you not loving classic as it is — you are green man bad!!!1”
I want to quote a guy with whom you had a “nice” conversation:
He summarized you very good.
You haven’t made any “logical points”, at all! You keep insulting me (which you got called out on) and repeating the statement “slippery slope, LOL!” I’ve gotten nothing beyond that, from you.
Me (or anyone else, tbh)- “Your argument consists of a logical fallacy.”
Flocket- “STOP INSULTING ME!1!!11!1!”
This is Flocket in every thread I’ve seen him in. He also likes to use Straw Men, like reducing a nuanced description (usually more than one) of how his slippery slope arguments consist of continuum fallacy, black and white thinking, and other various logical pitfalls, to “slippery slope, LOL!” Sorry, buddy, you’re the only one who actually types in that vapid manner.
It’s all subjective! “Pro-changers” want changes for different subjective reasons.
Again, with the “#nochanges”. I’ve already explained how those using it are using it because they are using it, that way.
I’ve explained myself, multiple times, throughout that thread. Nobody can give me hows. Just insults and mockery.
Oh, Ezgg, you project so hard! Shall we re-schedule our date? I have to get to work
Oh, I’d absolutely love to hear you explain your understanding of projection to the class. Please, tell us how I’m projecting? Or was that your attempt to smoke bomb your way out of this conversation?
Forum life has been so much better for me since I stopped responding to certain posters.
Yeah, certain trolls really do deserve the ignore button. I do enjoy watching some world class mental gymnastics, though.
I have a little bit of time.
Everything you’re saying about me, is you, sweetheart.
On the contrary, despite disagreeing, a lot, I like Ezgg. I admire their passion level because I’m the same way.
You’d ignore me Ezgg? After everything we’ve been through? Now, I’m sad.
Aww, darling, while that’s a convenient attempt at deflection from my point about our past interaction on these forums, that’s not how psychological projection works. But thanks for playing!
Of course not! I just said that certain trolls deserve it. Are you admitting that you see yourself as a troll? 
Again, never explains the how.
No, I’m not a Troll. But a lot of people think I am 'cause I don’t agree with them. Kind of hurtful, TBH.
But seriously, I have to get back to work! Later, friend!
A detailed description how how someone’s argument constitutes a specific, well known area of logical fallacy doesn’t constitute projection. /facepalm insert relevant The Princess Bride quote here If your logical fallacies were a building, someone could post a schematic detailing the measurements, down to the thread size on the smallest screw, and you’d still say “Never explains how.” or “You’re just insulting me!”
Hmm so why did you assume that a comment about trolls was referring to you, personally? Ah, so a lot of people think you’re a troll, but that’s definitely just because you don’t agree with them? Oh and it’s hurtful? Hmm… wow… wonder what could be going on there… all those people must just be conspiring against you. Yep. That’s the only explanation!
Quoted from one of my numerous similar posts on Flocket’s thread earlier, detailing why his “#nochange because it’s a slippery slope to retail” argument is fallacious and constitutes a false dichotomy.
ok . heres the thing about #nochanges.
it was at first about not deviating from the original client at all but then it changed to no changes that were not in 1.1-1.12 .
now its that we want as little changes from the original as possible given the needs of the programing and backend changes that HAD to be made for it to even work on the modern server structures.
so ya we can say #nochanges and mean #aslittlechangesaspossible to make it just work and thats it.
people are building a strawman and using that logical fallacy so ya.
we want as little deviations as possible and that would be no more changes beyond this point. we have to hold the line and not let it morph into some awful algam of retail and vanilla.
and yes people in this own thread have said “well theres already some changes , might as well make all these other changes too” which is the definition of a slippery slope.
Classic is not intended to be “an improved experience”.
Classic is not intended to be “the best game possible”.
Classic is “the good AND the bad of Vanilla WoW”. This was explained by Blizzard (by Ion) months ago.
For many years players have been claiming in forums that “Vanilla WoW was better than today’s WoW is”. Blizzard is giving all those players the chance to play both (for NO extra charge) and compare them.
If you don’t like Vanilla, simply admit it. Don’t demand a custom-made game that you would like better. Blizzard is not offering that.
And yes, I said “custom-made game”. Every player’s definition of Classic-plus has a DIFFERENT set of “QoL improvements”. No-one has offered to implement YOUR set for you.
Blizzard isn’t offering you Vanilla or anything close to it. They are offering you a sh1tty, lazy AF port from a Legion Client (it could’ve been made using a Vanilla Client and a new BNET API for Vanilla, anyone who claims otherwise has no idea what they are talking about), with TBC item fixes, and broken spell mechanics.
They are offering a 2006 Vanilla experience with as little changes as possible to work in their modern day infrastructure. You have always argued the technicalities of how it isn’t what they are offering Ezgg. Which others would interpret that you are claiming they are lairs and are just giving something else.
You know that is not true. You know they had to do what makes sense to them business wise and with what is currently working. Maybe they have their own reasons for not doing as what your describing. It isn’t perfect but it is legal. It gives those private server players an official place to play without it being shut down by Blizzard themselves. That’s what really great about Classic as their mission, which they have said verbatim on last years Blizzcon, was to deliver an authentic 2006 WoW experience.
You can argue the technicalities till the last phase of Classic, the truth is that they are giving us what WoW was like in 2006 with as little differences as possible and within their means as a business. I feel there is truly no way of convincing you.
No, WE don’t ALL agree with that statement.