Yeah and they made some great decisions, the LFM tab, dual specs, raid design etc are all objectively great.
I want a wider quest panel, cast bars, Link items, Dungeon maps, one bag etc supported by Blizzard officially. I don’t want to depend on addons for these, there is no harm in getting support form Blizzard for these UI related features and remove dependency on addons.
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In some cases it should be a no brainer, easily toggleable UI changes like built in quest tracking for example. Things that have no can be turned on/off with no real game play impact should have no reason not to be added, especially if they’re features that have already been added and in many cases can be done with add ons.
Isn’t the “slippery slope fallacy” itself just something designed to stifle conversation and debate? pretty sure it is, least in it’s modern usage
Most of their “great decisions” are from 10 years ago, and some are arguably not that great. Blizzard isn’t a company I’d trust to improve a game.
You say in a thread with over 500 replies. Yep, debate looks pretty stifled.
Things like quest tracking do have gameplay implications. Questing is a large part of the gameplay of classic.
Yeah I’d say it was an unsuccessful attempt. The basis of the thread was attempting to say that “starting to change things” and “changing too many things” aren’t related.
That’s interesting to learn, since I started the thread.
Lots of truth to that. However as some have stated there are good changes and bad changes.
The nochanges crowd are not only closing their eyes and ears to bad changes but good changes as well. And once you accept any change (which we already know the current game is different than it was in classic) you are no longer part of that entire nochanges thing.
In the end the development team has to make changes, not the players.
If people start quitting classic and as a result they stop paying for a sub in retail, they’re is a real impact to blizzard as a whole.
They’re is no other game they have that generates the income that WoW does. People should keep that in mind while they stomp their feet.
Except it’s something you can do with an add on and is also something that’s completely toggleable. And for that matter not any different than just looking things up online.
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This is a logical fallacy. It seems you’re the only one in this thread using logical fallacies in your argument
You got me, brah.
If you want this crap then go play Retail. Classic is supposed to be as closed to Vanilla as possible, not some amalgamation of retail and vanilla. Classic isn’t about quality of life and convenience.
That’s why people wanted it in the first place. Stop trying to change it, it’s not going to happen.
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Retail is the proof of a slippery slop coming true. If you want QoL then go away, problem solved.
heh its funny when people make the " hey there are changes so there should be more changes" argument.
its like “hey someone took a dump on this thing we have! lets all take a dump on it because of it!”.
and then someone is like "oh slippery slope is a logical fallacy even though im making a post to say that “because these changes happened, more changes should happen!”
seriously do you guys even think when you post? or do you have some sort of verbal diarreah that prevents you from being aware of what you are saying?
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I’ve explained my side, several times. Would you like to give my thread a read?
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Good talk, thanks.
Why even bother to go as far as to meet them at their slippery slope argument? Their slogan falls flat on its face to begin with. Classic is already #lotsofchanges. Anyone with a pair of eyeballs and an index finger can click over to the Classic Bug Report Forum and read the literally hundreds of threads that detail TBC item “fixes”, mechanics problems, and more that will very likely never even be acknowledged by Blizzard, let alone fixed. #unintentionaldumpsterfirechanges would be a more accurate rallying cry.
Also, lol @ the people saying “But retail proves the slippery slope!” You’re making OP’s argument for them. Retail=Bottom of the hill. Vanilla=Top of the hill. A slippery slope argument ignores that there is any ledge halfway down the hill that is in balance between the two extremes.
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We’ve already established what “#nochanges” means. And yet none of you can explain the how. The OP doesn’t deny welcoming all changes. Proving the slope to be real. Explain the how Ezgg. You can do it. I believe in you!
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