I have heard the arguments about the multiboxing advantages… But in most cases you don’t see one decked out character in a MB team. If you have 5 characters it taxes 5x the resources for those characters to be competitive.
It doesn’t take them anything extra, all they need to do is farm for the same time as 1 player does to get 1 token, and everything on top of that is pure profit.
maybe, but the richest players in the game didn’t get rich picking herbs. the highest ranked pvpers didn’t get there by multiboxing. CE raiders didn’t get there by multiboxing. the people timing +28 keys don’t do it by multiboxing.
the advantages you’re talking about only seem to exist if you limit your definition of what the game is to a very narrow area
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Oh yeah? It must’ve been poorest players in the game, running those multiple flocks of 15 druids through nazjatar? If 1 player makes 20k\h herbing, 2 flocks of 15 druids (10 gathering, 5 extra for server hopping I assume) lend them 400k. Add on top of that they also were\are bots in majority of cases.
The “richest players” are little kids in comparison with bot owners.
Nobody is arguing that. If you read the original post. The proverbial Batman “wall of text” I am against botting like everyone else and wish that they had gone after players that specifically botted, or grieved other players. Not ones that just multibox. Your stance seems to be a bit off base from the topic even though I think we agree on the point you are making.
Every experience I’ve had with a multi boxer was negative. Be that completely consuming the entirety of a zone’s resources, halting low level progress by spawn camping mobs, flooding the AH with materials to make it so no one else could make gold other than them or the tycoons that run the AH, or joining in LFR and holding it hostage because they were the majority and wouldn’t let people be kicked, I have never met a “good” person who was multiboxing. That’s not to say they don’t exist; the OP seems nice enough. But the nice ones are very few and very far between; the rest play the game as if it’s a single player, at the detriment of others. Or at least that’s the visibility the other players have into multi boxing.
I’m sorry, but that style of gameplay should not exist. I’m surprised Blizzard was willing to take the profit cut by essentially breaking it, but kudos to them for doing it. If people weren’t willing to grief by throwing money at the game, it would have been fine. But alas, they earned the stigma due to the visible problem multiboxers that caused grief.
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I multibox all manually, record it and send it to hacks@blizzard.com to report bots where does that stick me?
Also make enough gold off the AH on one toon to fuel the others (although D2 is making tokens go way up and had to actually get a sub on one but figured might as well get the 6 month so I get the mount). I find a AH sniper bot starting up I take my group out and either figure out a way to kill it or show that it is indeed botting / hacking and send it to hacks@blizzard.com. If someone says, “hey I think I found a bot idk” I go out to the zone, look at it / whisper, cushion it to obvlion if it is one, record and report.
The issue with herb gathering / stand still farming wouldn’t exist if hyper spawns were either removed / properly tuned (where it isn’t instant it’s like 10 - 20 seconds) and herbs were just 1 pick per node and just personal nodes, like final fantasy or even ESO’s take. ESO it’s anyone can hit it one time but the materials change depending on your skill and CP (champion points) in the game. Higher your CP more higher level stuff you’ll find. Rune scape is you just click between two nodes til you question reality.
What’s the difference now between someone running the AH on one account, crafting on one, and gathering on another one? That’s in the rules you can still do that but people don’t classify that as multiboxing. Boxing got big around legion time due to the multitap nodes and then hyper spawns then it being splattered all over youtube. Before that, you had the occasional pvper or person that was just questing or doing dungeons. No standstill farms, no mass amounts of herbing.
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not yet. but this is GD. give it time and people here will be calling alts “cheating” and calling for them to be banned
I appreciate your comments. I’m sorry that you never had a good experience with multiboxing/boxers. I wish that experience would have gone different for you. I still feel that adjusting the TOS slightly, lord knows its long enough would allow for more players like me to leave a good impression vs. the encounters that you have had in the past.
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I need to find that post where someone said that alt tabbing was considered botting.
Yes someone in the forums at one point said alt tabbing between 2 accounts was botting. I’ll see if I can find it.
Edit I found it for some reason it deleted my old edit that was strange:
But yeah I think they were honestly trolling though or I hope they were trolling. lol
Edit 2: I said #alttabbingisbotting as a satire joke originally. I know alt tabbing isn’t botting but uh, yeah that forum was an interesting time. lol
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I’m flattered that you remember me.
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LOL I DID hi Krutz XD
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I hope you’re doing well. I know we still prolly don’t agree on stances on the topic, but I’m glad to see you’re still around with all the irl dealings going around and such. =) I hope all has been going well for ya.
I can’t believe I actually read that…
Well, anyways, I’m not a multiboxer. However, I thought what the OP stated was reasonable.
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I’ll never find someone who agrees 100% with my insane stance, so it’s good to see you around.
I really was.
Just taking, like, a (satirical) hard line against multiboxing. But obviously alt-tabbing is cool. I can’t even imagine how fast you’d have to be to make effective use of that technique.
If multiboxing was relegated to only dungeons and/or raids, I’d be fine with multiboxing.
But let’s be honest here. 99% of multiboxers aren’t doing that, are they?
They’re using the automation to kill mass amounts of creatures while lagging out a zone. They’re using the automation to farm absurd amounts of herbs (should be first-come, first-serve) and tank the auction houses with unnaturally reduced prices. They’re using the automation to dominate in pvp situations.
It’s unreasonably unfair and Blizzard did the right thing.
My new crusade is against gather bots. They annoy me to no end and I report them whenever I encounter them. If I suspect a multiboxer (using broadcast stuff) I’ll report them too.
Got you and yeah it’s a pain or having windowed mode then just manually going between. I figured you were trolling and laughing your rear end off lol. I was laughing and still am laughing at that whole convo lol. Are the gather bots outside where you said they were before outside of uh, theatre in maldraxxus?
I have some level 30s on that server I’ll finish leveling em up and take a look over on bleeding and see what I can muster on helping report em. On zul’jin, it’s auction house sniping bots compared to out in the world bots. They sit down in booty bay so gotta kill the auctioneer which um… yeah people don’t like that. But if they post on the auctionhouse still without moving and the auctionator dead, kind of a dead give away. I haven’t seen a lot of herb farmers but could just be the sharding that I’m in at the moment.
Anywho. Yeah I think that was a big thing is just people took the ability to multibox too far beginning of legion going into bfa when multitap nodes became a thing with hyper spawns.
Edit: way I would check that they were still posting was by having the second account open near an auctioneer in orgrimmar and after killing the auctioneer on my level 10 (which would die) I would hit refresh over and over on the other account at the auctionhouse to see if the listing / name would pop up, and it would.
most people i see doing that are solo bots, not ‘active player’ multiboxers. i run into boxers very rarely in the world, and when i do they’re usually on their way somewhere.
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I saw a lot of those out in isle of thunder a while back, the bots that is. The botters are getting smart and are actually staying with their toons now instead of just leaving em alone. I may start making youtube vids for public viewing showcasing the different bots that I’ve encountered.
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It was a fun night of hyperbole and brinksmanship. Thank you for the fun.
They’re still there and what really gets me going is the sheer brazenness of how they do it. It’s not like, some quiet corner in an obscure location; no, it’s in a highly trafficked area. (Less so, due to flight)
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