The min-maxing community is toxic

I think your % of how many min-max is too high. I would estimate it is closer to 5% than 20%.

I do agree, they should mostly be ignored though.

My statement isn’t wrong; you can’t just say it’s wrong

Because ill just say you’re wrong too and you can’t prove it other wise

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How is this:

…any different from this:

I’m trying to reconcile how you’re beating people with gear and not doing so without having some advantage.

I understand you wrote that you don’t exclude then from content, but you also didn’t write you help them progress in content either. What content does a min-maxer exclude folks from that you would want to touch since:

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This is a bit dishonest at best, hyperbole at worst.

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Perhaps you need to learn what a fact is.

Or the English language. Since none of what you listed is correct or factual.

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Would you like me to break it down so you can understand the concerns you seem to easily want to sweep under the rug?

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and this proves you don’t know what your talking about. Nippyss is 100% correct.

The current system is just bad, plain and simple.

Again, something nobody should want.

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Looks like he was talking in regards to the 80% having more control and being able to decide how the top 20% of the content is tuned. I disagree, you have 80% of the game available to you as a casual player, mythic and keys 15+ are the last bit of content the top 20% of players have in it’s current state.

You aren’t gated from doing this content, you just need to actually put in time/effort and acquire the know how to play your class, do mechanics and how bosses work etc., the only gating happening here is lazy/incompetent mentalities.

The information/guides are out there, wowhead/mmochampion/icyveins/class discords/ there are even plenty of individual guides out there that some people have made per class. Youtube videos are a big one as well.
But no most people want to leap frog content, get carried and get geared, it very rarely if ever happens which is why carries exist.

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I forget I kind of wished I didn’t xfer over my account tbh, had 50mill before moving over to the new runescape.

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How do I block this priest?

Touche… lol

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I agree with you.

TBH I shouldn’t have labelled you as bad, thats my bad. I kind of zoned out of the primary topic! I actually don’t even min/max with either of my toons. Was really disagreeing with OP originally. But as someone who technically doesn’t even min max, I guess I do not.

On a side note, I support choosing the play style you enjoy the most, then making the most of it from there.

50m is chump change now

I’ve got a 1.2 billion GP bow

Times have changed haha

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you can alt f4 or just stop posting in a public forum.

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Why would you want to? Because they blew your argument to heck and then struck up a conversation with a fellow poster?

Grow up. lol

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Yeah I know but you have to realize I haven’t played in over 10 years.

you don’t, you just stop reading like any normal person.

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Tell me how Covenants will prevent people from doing +15’s and Heroics, when people with un-optimized gear in +10’s can clear Heroic Nya’lotha?

Even this character can complete a +7 at ilvl435 with a non-meta build.

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It doesn’t hurt them at all.

Yeah, it was a bit of the shock to the system when I started playing to find out dragon chain bodies were like 500k down from like 30 million gp

Good times as young me thinking people were gods because they had a d med helm haha