The meta problem, with screenshots you pretend don't exist

[Meinteil-frostmourne]

@Trustlvlfour-zuljin

The only thing I would say is that BDK yoyo HP mechanic is stupid and should be peared back since it freaks out healers 99% of the time. Other than that, nerf bear?

IDK. I prefer Blood DKs over every other tank in the game. #1 they are slower so we can all keep up with them and their not jumping all over the place, #2 having played DKs for so many years. I have faith in their design and prefer their toolkit.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Ok,op,I didn’t see a thing,there all nonexistent.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

right?

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

Yea, I was hpaly for years and I knew I could just beacon/focus a squish, the BDK was fine unless I could inspect him to determine he needed a little more help than others. Everyone has a BDK alt after all.

[Dieselhammer-stormrage]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

This game is very much bring the class, not the player.
Sometimes healers are pretty vocal in party chat how much they don’t understand BDK tanking. Often they do nothing to help solve that problem of theirs, trying to prove BDK is a bad idea. Unfortunately I have a lot of experience getting no help, shields, absorbs, assists, utility, or, right, heals from healers (it’s in the name) during pressure points because they want to show ppl BDK is a fail.

It’s not that people want to show blood DK is a fail, it’s just that blood DK requires no healing if played properly.

A blood DK will spike from 10% life back to full every other global. What do you want the healer to do? Sit there and pump heals into you constantly? Forget that, I’m dpsing or healing the rest of the group that isn’t death striking themselves for 200k HPS during that pack.

If you die it’s on you. That’s just how BDK works.

[Dan-emerald-dream]

#1 Threat: BEARS

[Xdarkzero-thrall]

You can definitely save a blood dk who messes up, but you need to be paying attention. It may also be class specific. As a priest I can PW:L them or use Holy Word: Serenity to get them back up quickly especially if they are below 35% hp. Here is what to do at each phase of a DK’s life/rp as a holy priest.

1. DK has health and runic power: keep renew and PoM on them.
2. DK has over 45 runic power but no health: keep renew and PoM on them.
3. DK has health but under 45 runic power: keep renew and PoM on them. Prepare to PW:L if they get smacked before they get runic power.
4. DK has no health and under 45 runic power: PW:L and be prepared to Holy Word: Serenity if their life drops again before they get 45 runic power or PW:L doesn’t heal them as much as you want.

Death Strike can’t be used to heal if the DK has no runic power, it costs 45 runic power. If the DK has runic power, they should be able to heal themselves through anything that doesn’t 1-shot them. Keeping small heals on them will help them not waste death strikes to heal small amounts of damage and prevents mistakes like using their runic power on small damage just before a damage spike.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Dan-emerald-dream

#1 Threat: BEARS

It can’t be understated, no matter the context.

[Annastasi-proudmoore]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

Meanwhile bears can

blah blah blah blah blah

up until this tier and since after legion bears were the redheaded stepchild of tanking that no one wanted to acknowledge.

now they’re good and everyone is suddenly concerned about bear utility. please. we have no more utility than we had before, we just aren’t garbage tier as we have been in the past.

[Argorwal-ysera (Argorwal)]

I feel like your response is also applicable to shadow priest.

They were never meta in SL despite having all the same utility as now.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

It’s me again!
This is from this afternoon. Thanks for understanding the problem, folks

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

In Halls of Infusion, the dragons after frog boss to ice troll boss could spell the end of a run without mass dispel, and at the very least be a time consuming pressure point for everyone else without mass dispel. That alone is one great example.

Wow devs saw this feedback and made changes the next day:

@Kaivax

Glacial Proto-Dragon’s Deep Chill now damages affected players every 2 seconds (was every 1 seconds). This reduces the damage over time portion of the spell by 50%.

This is why it’s important to give good, honest feedback.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

Wow devs saw this feedback and made changes the next day:

Your ego is off the charts.

That’s still not going to displace priest.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

In Halls of Infusion, the dragons after frog boss to ice troll boss could spell the end of a run without mass dispel, and at the very least be a time consuming pressure point for everyone else without mass dispel. That alone is one great example.

Wow devs saw this feedback and made changes the next day:

@Kaivax

Glacial Proto-Dragon’s Deep Chill now damages affected players every 2 seconds (was every 1 seconds). This reduces the damage over time portion of the spell by 50%.

This is why it’s important to give good, honest feedback.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

There’s a multitude of threads airing out their grievances with the m+ meta, rightfully so. There’s a large gap between the performance power of the god comp and everyone else

Theres always been a meta, it shifts almost every patch. People really just need to worry about improving their own play.

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

It’s me again!
This is from this afternoon. Thanks for understanding the problem, folks

These screenshots dont prove what you think they do.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

…the dragons after frog boss could cause a depleted key, and at the very least be a time consuming pressure point for everyone without mass dispel. That alone is one great example of needing balance…

Wow devs saw my feedback and made changes the next day:

@Kaivax

Glacial Proto-Dragon’s Deep Chill now damages affected players every 2 seconds (was every 1 seconds). This reduces the damage over time portion of the spell by 50%.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

Me, Aug 21:

@Kalaen-black-dragonflight

Priest Mind Soothe …required for the best pulls in some dungeons.

Them, Aug 22:

@Kaivax

Creatures that detect stealth and invisibility are now immune to the effects of Mind Soothe.

Looks like another example of my data driven feedback having profound effects.

[Fauxstrasza-stormrage]

You think you were the only one with these ideas? lol.

[Kalaen-black-dragonflight (Kalaen)]

Another update after all the nerfs which we all knew was not going to upset group comps, but boy do people love reminding me that they occured…
Reminder that the only way to avoid 3/4 of my consumable buffs rotting looking for group, just buff the dps of non bear tanks. That way everyone will see that any tank with appropriate gear/enchs/gems/io will do.

The below table is just last night; groups who declined me and waited around for bear tanks long enough that I could document as much data as I could before they filled:

bbbbbonus:

[Kaercha-stormrage]

You could fix BDK with tuning. Imho, they’re one of the most fun tanks right off the bat, it’s just that they don’t have enough DR for the damage of m+. It doesn’t matter that you can do heal 400k hps if you get globaled.

But that lack of dispel and group buff is a lot to overcome.

Exodia is stronger than the sum of its parts.