To be lavished over until everyone else quits the game, apparently.
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I think it was needed because quite frankly if they were gonna bounce m+ loot up to mythic ilvl multiple guilds that do mythic would end up having their raiders ultimately constantly farming for mythic ilvl gear even at 1 drop rate per dungeon, zzzzzz no thanks
Because this game should be raid or die, it’s supposed to be the end game… but when you confuse and convolute the endgame with too many options and ways to acquire things you compartmentalize your playerbase.
Actually I don’t think the last 2 raid bosses should drop more; you know what they say about assuming.
22+s dropping 226 would be an absolutely fair tradeoff, but that’s not what the vast majority of these thread whiners want.
Also, I don’t consider it putting my foot in my mouth, you have zero 20+s completed, your argument is an invalid as it was prior to posting.
Congrats on HoF, I also got it, and I know the work it took.
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End of dungeon loot has never been mythic ilvl gear.
I’m fine with 15s dropping 465s. That is in fact a compromise for making them have no lockout. Difficulty wise, 15s are harder than at the very least 3/12M. 3/12M is a joke. You can pug 3/12M, I’ve done it on my Warrior.
But 465 is the trade off for not having a lockout.
There should be one difficulty for raids with hard mode options for bosses…dungeons should have normal and heroic with challenge modes for armor or welp mogs and mounts. Add reforging back into the game.
Is unsubbing and realizing the carrot wasn’t even a carrot. It was pixels.
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Exactly the carrot is pixels but deep down it’s the interaction with others that has always made this game magical… and sometimes getting pushed out of your comfort zone is a good thing… which is why people should be forced to raid.
I personally would say a 15 is as easy at the 1st 3 bosses; you can say 1 is easier I suppose. They’re both faceroll, corruption has also ruined this game entirely and that fix will help a ton.
I clearly enjoy M+ as well, I would love for 22+ to drop higher gear as an alternate, my argumentative side in this thread was based on the idea of 15s dropping it. Don’t think we’re even on opposite fence sides here, homie, so let’s just drop the hostility and agree to disagree about somethings, but agree 15s dropping mythic gear would be a joke.
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Yup, WoD worked out so well…
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I had more fun in WoD than I did legion or bfa
it was still more or less required if you were going to be pushing into mythic raiding at the start of a new tier
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You and the 12 or so other people that lasted more than 3 months.
Gotta be fair here:
Some folks simply don’t care for raiding and enjoy 5-man dungeons more.
Some folks just legit don’t care for the guild drama that is required for raiding and just prefer Arena or even smaller PvP guilds.
Some folks think scripted raiding is boring and prefer Mythic Plus as an alternative. Like, you can legit teach 20 apes to all jump-rope at the same time with enough trial and error.
I just think the raid or die mentality has literally choked this game and it’s community since inception.
All I’m saying is that it’s a blunder to not respect the rewards of other content besides raiding.
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No you’re wrong. M+ was killing raiding because heroic dropped the equivalent of a +10. I’m glad to see it brought back in line.
Now let’s get the pvp rewards right and we can have some fun!!! 2400 for the equivalent of a +15 was sooo stupid. You could literally spam +10s all day and have an item level equal to a 2k player.
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whoah there… the little fascist in you need to sit back down. People shouldn’t be forced to do anything but enjoy themselves. I don’t think a guy who has doritos all over his chest should be killing all the children these days, the sword was taken out of the game!
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You will have to explain to me how Mythic Skittra is harder than M15 Tyrannical anything. Like really. I guess if you factor Mythic Skittra will put 3/4 of the raid to sleep with its having nothing to do except your rotation on the boss.
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I mistakenly left out the part where I meant if you want the best gear you should be forced to raid
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Skitra should never have existed and is an insult.
I do think wrathion/maut are comparable to any 15 tyrannical boss, however. Maybe you could make an argument for KR, I’d agree to that.