The key squish in DF S4 is what killed low M+

Especially this early in S1. I have to roll defensives, health stones and pots for all the trash. The people in my group who don’t fall over. Healers love me.

Why are you wrong on everything you’re posting in here? M+ was fun before it became the absolute sweat-fest in DF S4.

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do you think blizz will be happy to see participation go down so much for M+? it feels a lot like blizz kneecapped it so that casual people won’t do it so they have some reason to remove it. that’s the only thing i can think of with these boneheaded changes. low keys hurt no one. the vault shouldn’t ever give mythic gear. it should be no different than raiding in that it drops the same level of gear that drops from the dungeons themselves. i also think they overewarded but instead of doing heroic to get mythic level gear they should’ve done heroic level to get heroic level gear and had to actually have 5 man mythic raids if they wanted mythic level gear. they should’ve left lower keys alone. there’s no sense of progression at all if you’re stuck at 0s.

I agree with you, and I think delves are proving that.

What? S4 was incredibly easy. It was the easiest M+ season we’ve ever had.

They need to revert the rewards system back to S4. It was perfect imo.

You are absolutely wrong.

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I’ve enjoyed it ever since I started chasing KSM in DF. I’ll eventually pick up KSM this season as well.

For me delves are a much smaller factor than the key squish and the S1 dungeon rotation.

Delves are what has kept me playing, but without delves I’d just be on break instead, so while they are keeping me on the game they are not keeping me away from M+. M+ is doing that all by itself.

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What? You’re completely out of touch here or lying on purpose. Everyone knows S4 was ridiculously easy compared to every other M+ season. They did it on purpose. Devs stated that was the goal. It was a “fun” season.

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2.6 million keys run so far. Sure, it is a drop in particpation compared to the same point in DF season 1 28% drop, but I’d hardly say M+ is doing poorly.

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Working as intended, they even made the mode they claimed to be for casuals into a competitive sauna. Blizzard doesnt know how to make content for the other 90% of the playerbase.

You’re so wrong it almost hurts.

He is wrong, because you say he is wrong.

you’re correct. i’ve done +10s in previous expansions and did a +2 in season 4 and it was way too hard and now i’ll never do a mythic dungeon again. that seems to be what blizz wants. so good for them.

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My mistake. You’re right and everyone who actually plays M+ including the devs who said they wanted it to be a fun and easy season are wrong. You people realize we can see all the toons on your account, right? None of you even touch the content.

The stuff you people make up and lie about on here just for attention and trolling on these forums is mind boggling. You just want to argue. It’s so childish.

/facepalm

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I don’t think bullion rewards had much more of an impact on S4 than Delves should have on S1. If S4 was easy because we could overgear the content…then S1 should be easy as well as we can overgear the content.

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I mean, I thought the season was pretty easy up to about 2.6k io, which is as high as I cared to push

Lol, byeee

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this is the type of person you are. you have to live with that.

I think a lot of people here don’t realize achievements are account wide. Even low level alts at a certain level will have all your hard content achievements.

The type of person who says “lol, byee”?

I’m not sure what type of person that is, exactly. Mind clarifying?

But I’m quite okay with myself, and I’m happy to live :smiley:

I don’t find +2’s difficult, so let’s call that a bonus.

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