We are literally in the 2nd week. The biggest problem with M+ are the players making mountains of molehills this early in the season.
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You have people telling you the old 2-10 range was relevant to them so your “to everybody” comment is objectively wrong.
well what about 2,3,4 easier keys that gave loot ?
Just another low skilled player wanting easy rewards.
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M0s don’t have a timer so they are easier and they also give better/more loot than those low keys.
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Please continue to tell me how M0 no timer and +2 only is somehow equivalent to my guild working their way up through all of the keys through the season with timers and affixes on everything.
My guild went +2 through up to finally being able to do +12, rerunning the same dungeon if they wished in the same day… to you now telling them to start with +10 that they cannot rerun a second time that day and then just stay in +12 and not be able to progress the key bracket.
They’ll stick to Delves for now.
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I ran an m0 in season 4, they are not easy most people iv invited couldnt do it with the right ilvl
and I believe that those people can achieve success in the current M+ system but simply are too afraid to try.
My opinion may be “wrong” in your eyes, but Blizzard clearly thought the same or the new system wouldn’t have been carried forward into TWW.
Players underestimate themselves all the time, and they should step outside their comfort zone, especially if they have friends/guildies to do so. That’s the best environment to learn.
Simply ignoring content because it scares you is detrimental to one’s self confidence / personal growth.
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They are incredibly easy what are you talking about lol. You literally haven’t tried to do a single one how would you know their difficulty?
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what you talking about i just said , i did m0 is season 4, and i got KSM in S3
That is what Blizzard intended for people that just chose to just farm low m+ keys.
By the way, if you can’t learn the mechanics of a dungeon in a M0, then you need to uninstall the game, or just stay out of dungeon content.
If you got KSM in S3 and couldn’t do a m0 in S4 idk what to tell you. Sounds like getting carried territory
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Bro maybe you should do back and pay attention to what i said lol
delves are the method of gearing for m0/m+.
HOWEVER, the problem is that although you have gear, you have no knowledge of mechanics. M0 hit pretty hard; +2s even harder.
we used to have m0-10 to learn mechanics and then push for score.
as a pug tank, I found the previous 11-13 bracket was pretty punishing for the same reason. people kinda slammed/ove-geared their way to +10 then had to deal with mechanics. but they already had to learn one affix at +7 so at least they had some introduction to the content.
Today, you jump right into the muck. and people just tend to be very impatient with others who are still learning content weeks into a season/expec.
i am a solid tank. I don’t know routes and mob counts yet. I almost get more reluctant to jump into m+ the more time passes because that impatience tends to grow exponentially.
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I would but it’s mostly incoherent
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No it isn’t. You are your own barrier, stop being scared to start your own group.
So why you talking to me lol
Exactly! It was the learning range for the more casual crowd.
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Now you can learn in m0 where there’s no timer and you can focus on the mechanics
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You guys were still learning in a +10? No wonder the pug scene is so horrible. I’d trash the key and leave also. lol