Honestly I feel that If Blizzard back in 5.3 been about the night elves defending astranaar(alongside Malf and tyrande) against Garrosh forces and then a scenario about them pushing the Horde out of Ashenvale to Parallel the Horde quests. Then have the alliance delivering supplies to the Night elf forces in Ashenvale instead of trolls would have made that Patch soooo much better and Removed alot of complaints about Night evles always being the victim.
Would have been better than the empty speech that wasn’t followed up on after the Siege.
Alas we got robot kitty.
Really hope we don’t have to go through that again in 8.3
Just seems like a worse outcome to me. If the faction war is to end (like Blizzard has said), I would prefer the future be based around cooperation and rehabilitation. I would have vastly preferred this taking place at the end of Mists of Pandaria, of course. And the War of Thorns was a path I didn’t want for either side.
That’s why I never had any hope for this expansion being good as soon as the premise of it was revealed, and the pre-patch only affirmed it. The alliance is going to have to redeem or purify the horde or some nonsense like that, as if they deserve reconciliation after all this. And the idea just strikes me as offensive to both sides.
I think BFA was so bad that any attempt in reconciliation will fail utterly with the audience.
The Red team hurt the Blue team.
The Blue team has yet to respond in kind.
The Red team has not been… punished so that both sides can mutually agree to stop.
The Horde has borne zero consequence for what happened in prepatch and since then they have progressively doubled down on their evil actions.
Replacing Sylvanas is no different than replacing Garrosh.
Nothing changed.
I think most people are sick enough to just want to be done with the faction war. And reconciliation is the route I would want, at least. Rehabilitation being a better away from ‘tit for tat’ mentality that will ultimately make the most people in a good spot. If Blizzard keeps their word and the faction war is over, the Horde will be a proper cooperative asset like they should have been after Mists of Pandaria. If not, that’s a different story as they aren’t really being held to what people want or what they say.
I think it is extremely important for the “Tyrande stepping on Saurfang’s neck” kind of moment.
Theramore was left to fester for years.
Alliance never got a satisfaction they rightfully wanted and Horde players were constantly reminded of Jaina and Theramore whenever she was on screen.
We need a clean break.
You punch me. I punch you back.
Now lets stop and get along.
I wouldn’t necessarily care about some moment where the Night Elves have a degree of greater recognition or better triumph. To each their own. As an Alliance player, I’ve wanted cooperation since Mists rather than retribution. But what is enough for either side is obviously not always clear cut.
I am not… entirely sure how they can believably push a cooperation angle for the Kaldorei with the monsters that destroyed their homeland and burnt their loved ones alive as a show of force. That is about as palatable an idea as the Sin’dorei deciding “You know, let bygones be bygones… we will work with the scourge now, for world peace!”
To even try this sort of route the Horde has to somehow pay back reparations. Note I said the HORDE. Not the Horde players. The Kaldorei players need to see the world responding to what occurred, see their lands getting rebuilt and have friendlier Horde faces like Baine agreeing to send whatever supplies are needed for the rehabilitation efforts.
As a sort of promise to players they don’t plan to do this silliness again the Devs could even have the Elune empowered Tyrande raise up something akin to the Scarab Wall along the border, blocking off easy access to Kaldorei lands.
There also has to be a reckoning where those who lead the prepatch war effort are punished. Not necessarily killed, perhaps those like Saurfang the wardens imprison for an expansion or two.
Now, you know asking for any sort of punitive action against the NPC portion of the Horde, that in no way affects anyone’s ability to play the game, is an egregious and deeply personal attack on anyone who’s ever so much as thought the word “horde” in the entire history of ever.
I’ve had much the same idea. But with the Night Elves simply re-adopting Black Rook style walls and fortifications.
They did today that a night elf security force held the entire horde at bay for a good amount of time, but it never seemed like it. We still got wrecked. I do to wish for the day of the horde fearing getting tangled up with the night elves not the
“Hah, no single night elf could do all of that” … and then with only “I know one who could”
Not sure what that has to do with how Blizzard deliberately destroyed a matriarchal nation in their game.
But regarding that…
I think you should go back to Blizzcon 2011 where Blizzard openly aired a homophobic interview of the Corpsegrinder guy hurling homophobic insults at the Alliance and particularly at Night Elves to a crowd of cheering Horde fans.
I really hope you aren’t getting your hopes up. The developers seem to have some sort of hate grudge with the Night Elves that doesn’t look like it will ever go away. About the best you can hope for is that the developers will ignore them from now on.
Unfortunately true… but we still have yet to see the last of Tyrande… I have a feeling even with her night warrior she is subject to Sylvanas killing her… that actually might make me quit no lie, I know it’s just a story, but I hate being poo’d On as a night elf fan.
So I guess it was just a writing accident and they never intended to target Night Elves at all… Sylvanas just has a mind of her own that the writers can’t control.
Blizzard rectifies the shame and disgrace inflicted upon the Kaldorei by allowing Shandris and Maiev backed by Cenarius and Malfurion to land our people in Tyrisfal glades and grow a big fat finger out of the depths of Sylvanas’s favorite city while Cenarius hands packs the new plague and dumps its on Silvermoon as a bargaining chip.
Someone or something inspired Metzen to write about the Kaldorei, and someone or something inspired someone or something to do everything they could to eradicate us. Only a very clever and blatent victory upon the gems of the Horde could redeem our people of the crude and unusual fate us Kaldorei have been written…
Sylvanas burning down Teldrassil wasn’t an act of insanity more so an act of retaliation for being denounced by her victim. She the
Justified it in the same way by saying she was securing the future of the Horde. People do that when they have an inner regret. I’m surprised given the potency of that plague, Sylvanas’s didn’t march her army up from Stonard, provoke Anduin in marshalling his entire army, then just Garrosh plague bomb Anduin with catapults and Airships from most sides.
A tree off the coast is easier to isolate and less than a threat than an entire city state.
