10/26/2018 10:07 AMPosted by
Miadra
And yes, it is up to Blizzard to fix the imbalance that they themselves created.
What did Blizzard do to cause this faction imbalance?
They created two factions with nothing to prevent players from switching sides.
Is it shocking that players will gravitate towards the stronger faction for easier victories and a bigger pool of teammates?
This expansion has been a poor attempt to stir up faction conflict again and players aren't buying it.
10/26/2018 10:08 AMPosted by
Forums
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I noticed this too.
On Horde, I didn't have any fights against the Alliance.
On Alliance, I was attacked when I was doing my third quest in BFA. I had barely started doing BFA content and I was already dealing with wPvP. These max level, Horde feral druids were really brave going against my lower level toon.
Turn off War Mode?
Why would I turn it off? 10% bonus exp is nice. And it's not like the max level, Horde feral druids managed to kill me. They just delayed me slightly.
10/26/2018 10:31 AMPosted by
Oozo
Did you think alliance doing better than horde in WoD was an exaggeration as well?
Not at all. I was Horde that expansion, and it was mercing that turned that poopshow around.
10/26/2018 10:31 AMPosted by
Oozo
Your failure in logic is that you assume that other people must be experiencing the same things that you are experiencing when there could be other factors involved such as solo/duo queueing versus full man queuing or queuing at certain tmes of day or even the possibility of a hidden mechanic that keeps placing you with bad players.
This goes both ways. When people complain, they tie the entire faction with their complaint.
I don't see the imbalance. But one thing is for sure, Horde is just cooler. The cool kids play Horde. If you want to be cool, play Horde. Maybe that is why?
10/26/2018 10:31 AMPosted by
Oozo
Your failure in logic is that you assume that other people must be experiencing the same things that you are experiencing
The irony of this is thick enough to choke a donkey.
I was thinking this same exact thing. I guess the only way my logic is approved by these folks is if I agree with them and join in on the complaints.
10/26/2018 10:31 AMPosted by
Oozo
Your failure in logic is that you assume that other people must be experiencing the same things that you are experiencing
The irony of this is thick enough to choke a donkey.
Where is the irony? I haven't disputed that she is winning half of her matches. I have no way of knowing that so I am assuming that her portrayal of her experience is accurate.
I think you need to check out a dictionary.
It would only be ironic if I disputed her claims and insisted she was losing more than winning.
More logic fail.
I started this expansion Horde. I switched to Alliance because the Dark Iron Dwarfs. It was the cool allied race that was my incentive.
I went from winning almost all bg's to hardly winning at all. I completely stopped doing Epic, which was a huge waste of time. AV is always a loss (what a change right).
I think it isn't just because all the pvpers went to horde, I think it is because many pvp players simply left the game. They removed pvp gear from the game and made pve viable in pvp. So if you decide to earn gear via pvp only, it will have a lower item level then a player that just plays pve....so in WoW pve is so much more rewarding gear wise if you grind dung/raids.
One fix = make honor points useful somehow. As of now it is pointless for progression. It used to reward you with currency to upgrade your items.
Another fix = bring pvp vendors back and add a pvp stat.
This will bring pvp players back to the game. And some of those players might just like being the under dog for awhile to bring the Alliance back up to speed.
10/26/2018 09:56 AMPosted by
Jugajr
10/26/2018 09:27 AMPosted by
Oozo
1. You can level using War Mode much easier on horde. When leveling this DK from 110 to 120 I only saw two alliance.
I only saw 2-3 Horde while leveling this Lock. And yes, I always have warmode on.
10/26/2018 09:27 AMPosted by
Oozo
2. You have a better chance of winning BGs when you play horde.
I win the same Horde or Alliance.
You're in a very, VERY small minority with both of those experiences, bud. You should play the lotto or something.
10/26/2018 10:40 AMPosted by
Oozo
I haven't disputed that she is winning half of her matches.
Can't dispute facts, otherwise I bet you'd try
10/26/2018 10:31 AMPosted by
Oozo
Did you think alliance doing better than horde in WoD was an exaggeration as well?
Not at all. I was Horde that expansion, and it was mercing that turned that poopshow around.
What was the cause of the disparity in WoD? Merc mode fixed everything, huh?
10/26/2018 10:47 AMPosted by
Oozo
Merc mode fixed everything, huh?
Unless it was a big coincidence that once merc showed up, winrates started to even out and stayed relatively close.
10/26/2018 10:45 AMPosted by
Jugajr
10/26/2018 10:40 AMPosted by
Oozo
I haven't disputed that she is winning half of her matches.
Can't dispute facts, otherwise I bet you'd try
So, you can state for a fact that myself and my friends have not at varying times been experiencing 8-10+ losses in a row?
10/26/2018 10:45 AMPosted by
Jugajr
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Can't dispute facts, otherwise I bet you'd try
So, you can state for a fact that myself and my friends have at varying times been experiencing 8-10+ losses in a row?
REFlex tracks all BGs... if you have that, then there you go.
Irony is when you end up carrying undergeared warlocks to victory and then they tell everyone that faction balance is fine.
10/18/2018 10:47 PMPosted by
Forums
Won a random epic bg with undergeared Alliance teammates, e.g. a warlock who had less than 90k hp:
https://imgur.com/YuA0IFa
Alliance is getting stomped in 19/20 games. It's worse than I've ever seen it.
The data does not support the picture that you and others are painting here. The data shows that the overall win percentage is actually still fairly close at 47|53 for US and 46|54 for EU for unrated BGs: http://wow-stats.com/bgwr01.html
For rated, the ratios are even closer at 48|52: http://wow-stats.com/rbgwr01.html
The data also shows that as far as overall faction stats, there are slightly more Alliance players than Horde overall at 50.9|49.1: https://realmpop.com/us.html
So either the data is inaccurate by a VERY large margin, OR, you are severely exaggerating your point to make it more dramatic.
When I see all of these posts about Alliance always losing, never having balanced games, etc. etc., and I look at the data and see that it does not reflect that experience, I wonder what it really is? For years Alliance whined about Arcane Torrent being the real problem. Now, it's because Alliance have no incentives to want to play their faction? So Blizzard should bribe Alliance with better things than Horde, even though they already receive bonus honor?
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10/26/2018 10:50 AMPosted by
Forums
Irony is when you end up carrying undergeared warlocks to victory and then they tell everyone that faction balance is fine.
10/18/2018 10:47 PMPosted by
Forums
Won a random epic bg with undergeared Alliance teammates, e.g. a warlock who had less than 90k hp:
https://imgur.com/YuA0IFa
lol gear doesn't even matter this expansion
https://imgur.com/a/sYtryl9
10/26/2018 10:40 AMPosted by
Oozo
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The irony of this is thick enough to choke a donkey.
Where is the irony? I haven't disputed that she is winning half of her matches. I have no way of knowing that so I am assuming that her portrayal of her experience is accurate.
I think you need to check out a dictionary.
It would only be ironic if I disputed her claims and insisted she was losing more than winning.
More logic fail.
I assure you I'm confident in my understanding of the definition of irony.
The reason I pointed out your statement as being ironic, is that literally every thread started on here pissing and moaning about their constant losses and how bad it is are all made with the assumption that their experience must be exactly what every other person is seeing too.
When it's pointed out that the experience of one does not define the population as a whole, it's met with screeching and the clutching of pearls.
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So, you can state for a fact that myself and my friends have at varying times been experiencing 8-10+ losses in a row?
REFlex tracks all BGs... if you have that, then there you go.
Here is a REFlex from WOD alliance. I switched over to play with a friend on his warlock. We went 62W 3L. I don't use that addon but my friend was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4II9S43_8&t=276s
I guess we were just much better players then than we are now. Or maybe whatever was causing that kind of disparity then could also be in play now.
10/26/2018 10:50 AMPosted by
Forums
Irony is when you end up carrying undergeared warlocks to victory and then they tell everyone that faction balance is fine.
10/18/2018 10:47 PMPosted by
Forums
Won a random epic bg with undergeared Alliance teammates, e.g. a warlock who had less than 90k hp:
https://imgur.com/YuA0IFa
But how did she do on the scoreboard? Did she help defend? Thx to the scaling system undergeared players are still able to contribute in bgs. its not like they run around getting 1 shotted like before.
10/26/2018 10:58 AMPosted by
Oozo
Or maybe whatever was causing that kind of disparity then could also be in play now.
I'd be losing a LOT more on this toon if that's the case. It's not like I'm so OP pvp'er lol
Did she help defend?
She launched chaos bolts from the safety of the back of the raid.
I defended.