10/26/2018 10:40 AMPosted by
Oozo
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Where is the irony? I haven't disputed that she is winning half of her matches. I have no way of knowing that so I am assuming that her portrayal of her experience is accurate.
I think you need to check out a dictionary.
It would only be ironic if I disputed her claims and insisted she was losing more than winning.
More logic fail.
I assure you I'm confident in my understanding of the definition of irony.
The reason I pointed out your statement as being ironic, is that literally every thread started on here pissing and moaning about their constant losses and how bad it is are all made with the assumption that their experience must be exactly what every other person is seeing too.
When it's pointed out that the experience of one does not define the population as a whole, it's met with screeching and the clutching of pearls.
But have I made assumptions that everyone is experiencing what I am? No. So, where is the irony in me saying that because Jugaa is basically calling me a liar when I say that long losing streaks are not uncommon for me when playing alliance.
10/26/2018 11:03 AMPosted by
Forums
Did she help defend?
She launched chaos bolts from the safety of the back of the raid.
In other words, I played my class
10/26/2018 11:03 AMPosted by
Oozo
because Jugaa is basically calling me a liar
Never did that. I'm just offering the other side of that coin.
10/26/2018 10:57 AMPosted by
Kády
When I see all of these posts about Alliance always losing, never having balanced games, etc. etc., and I look at the data and see that it does not reflect that experience, I wonder what it really is?
I don't know how accurate that data is, especially with mercenaries and premades too.
Have you PvPed on an Alliance toon in BFA? Solo queue?
10/25/2018 05:22 AMPosted by
Krienn
How could Blizz ever fix this? I’m all for a challenge but man it’s been a rough expansion so far. Especially the last two weeks in normals and epics.
Have you PvPed on an Alliance toon in BFA? Solo queue?
Forewarning: if you answer this, you're only allowed to be negative.
On alliance I am regularly on teams that are shorthanded. We started an AV on Tuesday night with 27 players. Once the rest of our team entered the bg it was too late as all of our towers had already started counting down. It created a toxic environment in chat because the players that entered late didnt know we started with only 27.
I then queued for non epic bgs and backfilled 5 straight losing games which also were regularly short on players alliance side.
I believe this is part of the problem and there needs to be more severe penalties for declining queues and leaving bgs early. Also needs to be more incentive to finish out a loss, maybe a small amount of conquest.
10/26/2018 11:09 AMPosted by
Jugajr
Have you PvPed on an Alliance toon in BFA? Solo queue?
Forewarning: if you answer this, you're only allowed to be negative.
Can I have your seething shore win %?
Why is your ilvl at 336?
10/26/2018 10:57 AMPosted by
Kády
When I see all of these posts about Alliance always losing, never having balanced games, etc. etc., and I look at the data and see that it does not reflect that experience, I wonder what it really is?
I don't know how accurate that data is, especially with mercenaries and premades too.
Have you PvPed on an Alliance toon in BFA? Solo queue?
I am not really sure what my personal experience with pvp this xpac has to do with the data I provided? Please explain how it is relevant to the information I provided.
I see your question about my personal experience an attempt to deflect from what the data actually shows. It's either that or you are trying to assert that personal experience trumps actual data????
I will still entertain your questions though. For this xpac and in regards to pvp, I've played three nights total and only about 10 games total, all on Horde....once solo-queue, another time with two others, and lastly one time with a group of five. I've had little time to pvp this xpac thus far as I've been focusing on grinding out all of the other things I need to do for pve raiding and Mythic +'s. I will get back to more pvp eventually though. Having said this, I am pretty sure you already knew the answer to this question.
As far as margin of error in those graphs, more information on the data and how it's gathered is provided on their website: http://wow-stats.com/index.html#statistics
TLDR: "In most graphs the standard error is fairly low"
10/26/2018 11:09 AMPosted by
Jugajr
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Forewarning: if you answer this, you're only allowed to be negative.
Can I have your seething shore win %?
Why is your ilvl at 336?
I'm just doing a few randoms a night like I did last expansion. Once I cap my points for legs this week, I should be a bit higher.
And lol @ that win% Nice glitch
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Can I have your seething shore win %?
Why is your ilvl at 336?
I'm just doing a few randoms a night like I did last expansion. Once I cap my points for legs this week, I should be a bit higher.
And lol @ that win% Nice glitch
Right on, I just assumed you had a horde main or something and this alliance was an alt.
There really is an issue with alliance vs horde in random bg's.
In fact since the start of this expansion I have had an extremely rough time playing alliance with this character.
Two days ago I faction transferred and my gaming experience is much better.
Able to get my conquest cap each night with relative ease.
Yes, horde does lose 10/15 man bg's, prolly 50%, but epic's are vastly easier being horde compared to alliance.
10/26/2018 11:39 AMPosted by
Eraycer
Right on, I just assumed you had a horde main or something and this alliance was an alt.
Ya, my Horde is taking a break. She's something like 356. Having more fun on this toon
I think overall alliance do fine, but will say it’s been rougher these past couple of weeks for me. Our queues also seemed to go up the past couple of weeks too. We’ve actually had a few go 5 minutes. I don’t know if they’re related, but that timing.
Also, this is a sample of my experience as alliance with war mode on. I even got hit by a 5 man gank squad in pandaland while trick or treating last night!
https://imgur.com/a/MGqgCjK
That ganking thing happens on Horde a lot too. There is a very large Alliance premade that regularly runs around ganking people just trying to do their quests. They roam the map as one large ball of death.
10/26/2018 11:43 AMPosted by
Jugajr
10/26/2018 11:39 AMPosted by
Eraycer
Right on, I just assumed you had a horde main or something and this alliance was an alt.
Ya, my Horde is taking a break. She's something like 356. Having more fun on this toon
Apparently we aren't allowed to have fun while playing on Alliance toons.
10/26/2018 11:27 AMPosted by
Kády
I am not really sure what my personal experience with pvp this xpac has to do with the data I provided? Please explain how it is relevant to the information I provided.
The data you provided is influenced by other factors, such as mercenaries, premades, and lower level bgs.
With personal experience, you may realize that this data might not be an accurate reflection of the current state of affairs for Alliance players who solo queue at max level.
10/26/2018 11:27 AMPosted by
Kády
I will still entertain your questions though. For this xpac and in regards to pvp, I've played three nights total and only about 10 games total, all on Horde....once solo-queue, another time with two others, and lastly one time with a group of five. I've had little time to pvp this xpac thus far as I've been focusing on grinding out all of the other things I need to do for pve raiding and Mythic +'s. I will get back to more pvp eventually though. Having said this, I am pretty sure you already knew the answer to this question.
Thanks and no I did not know the answer to this question.
10/26/2018 11:43 AMPosted by
Jugajr
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Ya, my Horde is taking a break. She's something like 356. Having more fun on this toon
Apparently we aren't allowed to have fun while playing on Alliance toons.
Seriously.
10/26/2018 12:20 PMPosted by
Kády
That ganking thing happens on Horde a lot too. There is a very large Alliance premade that regularly runs around ganking people just trying to do their quests. They roam the map as one large ball of death.
Yea. It all depends which warmode shard you’re on. They try to balance them out but obviously every member won’t always be grouped on both sides.
I think instead of the 'mercenary' option. Blizzard should just have Faction & Non-Faction BG option.
If que for faction you are standard horde vs alliance
If que for non-faction you are just team 1 vs team 2. Horde & Alliance
Horde will prefer Faction based because they enjoy an advantage, so alliance would prefer the latter since theoretically you have a 50/50 chance of winning.
10/26/2018 01:23 PMPosted by
Warridy
I think instead of the 'mercenary' option. Blizzard should just have Faction & Non-Faction BG option.
If que for faction you are standard horde vs alliance
If que for non-faction you are just team 1 vs team 2. Horde & Alliance
Horde will prefer Faction based because they enjoy an advantage, so alliance would prefer the latter since theoretically you have a 50/50 chance of winning.
I like this idea very much.
It gives people struggling an option without affecting those who would like to strictly adhere to wow lore.
10/26/2018 01:25 PMPosted by
Eraycer
10/26/2018 01:23 PMPosted by
Warridy
I think instead of the 'mercenary' option. Blizzard should just have Faction & Non-Faction BG option.
If que for faction you are standard horde vs alliance
If que for non-faction you are just team 1 vs team 2. Horde & Alliance
Horde will prefer Faction based because they enjoy an advantage, so alliance would prefer the latter since theoretically you have a 50/50 chance of winning.
I like this idea very much.
It gives people struggling an option without affecting those who would like to strictly adhere to wow lore.
I like this as well. It would be a good solution without impacting lore for people that wants to stick to alliance vs horde
A good first step would be getting rid of mercenaries. Shouldn't be able to have your cake and eat it, too. If you want to play on the dominant side, there should be a downside. Another option is simply red versus blue.
A second and more important step would either be disabling racials, or adding a PvP racial affinity talent that lets you choose your racial from a pool of them. You could also come up with a brand new line of PvP racials to choose from which replace the old ones in instanced PvP, things like a stun, a heal, an escape, etc.
The most complicated issue is just flat out gear disparity. One side has more people, more raiding, and more activity going on. It's less difficult to gear up and that has snowballed. I wouldn't be shocked if the overall ilvl between the factions was 20-40, which adds up. My solution would be to add PvP vendors back that sell respectable, decent gear, PvP-centric trinkets, and possibly PvP stats. Let people finish a character and enjoy PvP for God's sake.